Naval Tradition @ 1946
With sincere thanks to Jeanne, this post shows what “OUR NAVY’ magazine included as U.S. Naval tradition and humor in their September and December 1946 issues.
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Military Humor –
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Farewell Salutes –
Nancy Cox Allen (100) – Mansfield, OH; US Navy WAVES, WWII, Yeoman 2nd Class
Colin Arslanbas – MO; USMC, SGT., Maritime Special Purpose Force/24th Expeditionary Unit, KWS (Camp Lejeune)
Raymond Casatelli (100) – Utica, NY; US Army, WWII, ETO
Austin Dishmon – Lancaster, CA; US Army, Lithuania, 3rd Infantry Division, KWS
David H. Frank – Colorado Springs, CO; US Air Force, 694 Security Squadron, recon C-130 pilot / Norad, Space Commander, Lt. Colonel (Ret.)
Marcus Jordon – Jacksonville, FL; US Air Force, Senior Airman, 38th Rescue Squadron, KWS (Guam)
Gerald L. Lester – Port Angeles, WA; USMC, Vietnam, Sgt. Major, Purple Heart
Miguel Maya – TX; USMC, Cpl., Avionics technicin, Marine Helicopter Light Attack Training Sq. 303, KWS (Camp Pendleton)
Carl E. Patterson – Falls Church, VA; US Aarmy Air Corps, WWII, B-24 & B-26 pilot / Korea, Air Force Audit Agency / Vietnam, Colonel (Ret. 30 y.)
James L. Shaw – Maplewood, MN; US Army, Sgt. Major
Gary W. Trople – Bozeman, MT; USMC, Vietnam
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Posted on April 29, 2024, in Post WWII, Uncategorized, WWII and tagged 1940's, History, Humor, Military, Military History, Navy, Tradition, Tributes, veterans, WW2, WWII. Bookmark the permalink. 102 Comments.
GP, a beloved Midway volunteer shipmate, and Korean era Navy vet, Hal Simmons passed away on May 4. He was in 1952-56 and was trained to work with aviation radar. Please include Hal in your Farewell salutes. After his longtime wife passed away, Hal volunteered on the Midway, working more than 40 hours a week. The Midway became his new family. He will be sorely missed. I plan to re-run his Angel Flight interview from 2019 tomorrow, if it is not too late to have him included on your blog. If I see it, I will add a link. Thanks for whatever you can do.
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I’ll do my best!!
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Much appreciated, whatever you can do with such short notice. Thanks, GP
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His obituary doesn’t seem to be posted yet, but I have enough from you. I’ll check for it again in the morning anyway.
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Thanks, GP. I don’t know when it will actually be posted. His niece is handling that end of it. The Midway will be planning a special memorial or celebration of life for Hal in the future. Hope to go back for that.
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When you read the Salutes, please tell me if I have something wrong.
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Perfect, GP. Thanks so much for the last minute inclusions. Exactly the edition (Military Appreciation Month) to include Hal.
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Indeed! I loved your interview!!
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Hal was a sweetie to interview and provided really good answers. Apparently he wrote a memoir before he died that I would love to get the chance to read, if his family releases it for wider circulation. I heard from another volunteer who read part of it and say it is very good.
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Let’s hope the family will at least release it to you, being as you were close.
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I have read many things that were unknown to me. We indeed need to put more humor into our lives. I have been on holiday and I will read the messages later.
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Thank you, Mary Lou.
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Historical glimpses are very informing. I cannot imagine where our military is heading.😳
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I so agree. 😵😨
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I laughed at the snippet titled “The Beautiful and the Brave.” It was the phrase “late unpleasantness” that got me. I’ve sometimes used the phrase “the recent unpleasantness” to refer to things like the pandemic. Now I’m wondering if I might have picked it up from my elders, who used the phrase during their war years.
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Might have been, it did cause you to chuckle. I do that when someone says something I hadn’t heard since living with my parents.
Thanks, Linda.
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Glad there are still copies of those old magazines around. The ice ship was quite interesting, especially since there really were plans for it. At first, I thought it was just a cartoon but now I know it is real. Nice that people could have a sense of humor about the war back then. That’s probably what kept them going.
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When a person sees what they did, something needs to counter-act the trauma. Humor helps.
Thanks, Bev.
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This made me smile!
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Terrific!! Happy to hear that, Jennie!
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Surely the ‘Ice Carrier’ must have been satirical? Good crop of military funnies, GP!
Best wishes, Pete.
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Actually, it was not. Wiki has a page on it too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habakkuk
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Amazing! Thanks for that link, GP.
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The “ice carrier” was a concept developed by an eccentric inventor named Pyke. He created a material he called “Pykrete,” that consisted of ~14% sawdust and 86% ice, cheap materials. The sawdust gave it great strength and also served as insulation. Proposed for the North Atlantic, it was very slow, but axis planes wouldn’t be able to destroy it with bombs. Long range planes made the concept obsolete. Wankerpedia has an article on it, and Mythbusters built a small prototype.
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Good to know, thank you. I understand it is quite strong.
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You saw these ancient old images in Naval 1946 . Anita
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Thank you.
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How great that she had a copy of this!
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I’ll say. The mags hold quite a number of stories I never heard!
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Yes, it’s nice learning, viewing what went on back then. Many things, I admit, I did not know. So, thank you for sharing.
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You are very welcome!
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what an idea!
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Thanks, Beth.
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Thanks for the post. It is a blessing
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Thank you very much.
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You are very, very welcome
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Great collection! Humour goes a long way to bring cheer to our hearts.
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Thank you, Peter. It makes me feel better to smile!!
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Hmm, I dunno about an air craft carrier made of ice
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Strangely enough, when I looked up the operation – it actually made sense – who knew!!
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Must be a physics and engineering thing . . .
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Must be, but you can’t prove it by me. Dan Antion says he was afraid he;d slide off.
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I don’t see how fighter planes could take off and land on a flight deck made of ice.
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The project would have been abandoned if it had not been for the invention of pykrete, a mixture of water and woodpulp that when frozen was stronger than plain ice, was slower-melting and would not sink.
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Ah, so it wasn’t just ice, then. (I need to stop obsessing over this.)
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haha, You obsess all you want!
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🙃
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Thanks for sharing this informative look at Traditions of the Navy. Gotta wonder what was the though process behind the ice carrier.
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I looked up the operation and it sorta made sense – go figure!
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I’ll take your word. 😁 Thanks.
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Ah yes, Habakkuk. A bizarre idea that could have actually worked quite well. The theories are solid, and Geoffrey Pyke’s “Pykrete” was genius. I’ve actually used a variation, using sawdust from an Amish sawmill and ash from our wood-burning furnace, and mixed it with muddy ground in front of our house to produce a hard parking surface for the wife. Did it years ago, and the area is still solid.
Submarine and aircraft carrier? Japanese I-400 class submarine, anyone? 😉
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It’s still solid? Whoa, I should have known. That generation was so ingenious!
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By the by, if you have an interest in carriers crossed with cruisers and battleships, you can check out some US Navy designs (drawn up but never built) at shipscribe.com under the titles of “US Navy Spring Styles” – so named after the fashion catalogs of the periods displaying new dresses and clothing. Also a lot of cool, more traditional gun ship designs, including a number of battlecruiser designs and upsized versions of the Alaska-class super-heavy cruisers.
And a quick story for you, of my dad. I once picked up a bunch of EE-8 field phones at a flea market, a few of which didn’t work. I took one to my dad, a veteran of the Bell System. I walked in the door with it in my hand, he spotted it, grabbed it from my hand – grinning in recognition – and tore off down to his workbench. By the time I got my coat off and went downstairs, he had it disassembled and diagnosed – wearing one of the biggest smiles I ever saw! I wish I remembered 1% of what he taught me, or knew 1% of what he did. “Greatest generation”, indeed!
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I love your Dad’s story!! It really is amazing how ingenious they were!!
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Plenty of humor here, G. I thought maybe the ice ship was a spoof. Apparently, it wasn’t. Obviously it was a bad idea then, imagine what it would be like in the age of global warming.
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haha, that would be a problem, wouldn’t it? Glad you got a laugh or two – I think we’re all ready for more humor in our lives!!
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Lots more, G!
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What on earth were they expecting from a carrier made of ice. I wouldn’t want to land (or live) on that flat top, under any conditions!
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But, Churchill wanted it. haha, I have to admit, I agree!!
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Not every decision Churchill made was a good one clearly!
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I like the cartoons, they are different than the usual cartoons!
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Yes, I figured we were all due for something different.
Thanks, John.
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Churchill been drinking again?
Nice to have the acknowledgement for the yachts doing coastguard duty ‘during the late unpleasantness…’!
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haha, it could be, Helen. He did make a few boners in his day.
Thank you for the chuckle!!
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That particular turn of phrase brought me up short, too!
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The aircraft carrier of ice…guess that would be a limited radius to serve within.🙂
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Maybe the new Artic 11th Airborne Division could use it? 🤪
Thank you, Bruce.
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Great stuff.
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Thanks. I appreciate your visit, Alan.
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Hadn’t heard of this one!
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I had to look up the S.S. Stanley Dollar, it got my curiosity up.
Thank you, Jacqui.
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🙂
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Thanks, Paul.
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An aircraft carrier made of ice? Wow!
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That’s one big ice cube, isn’t it, Tim?! 🙄😵
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That’s quite the idea. I wonder how well it worked.
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I doubt the project ever got that far. I’ll have to check.
Wiki of course had it…https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habakkuk
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The tattoo one reminded me that when the two oldest brothers joined the Navy (1934), their parents asked them to never get tattoos. They didn’t!
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I can understand that. Ump, remember those days when kids listened to what their parents said?
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Fun post. That sailor wanting the battleship on his chest, may have been my favorite. I think I have met that guy at least once in the past (I’m talking physical shape, not the tattoo–you want to ask him when he is due.) The floating ice cube carrier was fun. Until I read it I wondered if it was part of Operation Frostbite https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/1946/september/operation-frostbite-strategic-success
The USS Midway (CV-41) and three destroyers went up to the Arctic Circle in 1946 to see how the Navy would do in a polar environment.
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I had heard of Operation Frostbite, but never read such a detailed article about it before. Thank you, Pat!
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My pleasure. It was one of the first major operations that the Midway was involved in. I have learned a lot about the Midway since I began volunteering there several years ago.
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I bet you have. You sure know far more than I!!
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Only about the Midway. Not WWII and a bunch of other stuff. 😎😉🤔
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Why thank you. (shucks I can’t find a blushing emoji).
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😊😊🥴
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I wouldn’t want to be landing on an ice deck, GP. These were fun to read, though.
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haha Don’t like to get your feet cold, eh? or do you figure your plane would slide right off the deck?
Thanks for reading them, Dan.
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I’d be worried about sliding off.
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Yup, it would be a cold landing no matter where you ended up!!
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How humour has changed
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I suppose it has.
Thank you, Sheree.
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😎
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I read about the ice carrier in the book Nuking the Moon
Book by Vince Houghton.
The book is a collection of weird military and spy plans that (thank God) never left the drawing board. Very interesting reading.
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You never know what they’ll come up with, eh?
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Although the iceberg ship was a serious plan, it’s ironically the funniest item in this humorous collection.
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I can’t imagine them building such a huge ice cube!!
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It’s rather absurd.
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Thank you, Ned.
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Thank you.
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