Mopping-up the Japanese Midget-Submarines
By definition, a midget submarine is less than 150 tons, has a crew of no more than eight, has no on-board living accommodation, and operates in conjunction with a mother ship to provide the living accommodations and other support. The Japanese Navy built at least 800 midgets in 7 classes, but only a fraction had any noticeable impact on the war. Their intended purpose initially was to be deployed in front of enemy fleets, but their actual use would be in harbor attacks and coastal defense.
The Japanese midget subs were not named but were numbered with “Ha” numbers (e.g., Ha-19). These numbers were not displayed on the exterior and operationally the midgets were referred to according to the numbers of their mother ships. Thus, when I-24 launched Ha-19, the midget was known as “I-24tou” (designated “M24” in some texts). The “Ha” numbers were not unique either; some Type D’s were numbered Ha-101 through Ha-109.
In mid-1944, with coastal defense requirements becoming urgent, the Japanese Navy developed the Koryu Tei Gata Type D. More than just another improved version of the Type A, this was a new design. They were the largest of Japan’s midgets, displacing about 60 tons, 86 feet (26 meters) in length, with a five-man crew, featuring a more powerful diesel engine, and had improved operating endurance. Koryu’s armament consisted of two muzzle-loaded 17.7-inch torpedoes. As with the earlier types, individual boats had alpha-numeric names in the “Ha” series beginning with Ha-101.
Some 115 units had been completed when Japan capitulated in August 1945. At the end of the war, Allied Occupation forces found hundreds of midget submarines built and building in Japan, including large numbers of the “Koryu” type; nearly 500 more were under construction. Some of these submarines intended for training pilots for Kaiten type manned torpedoes, had an enlarged conning tower and two periscopes.
Kaiten submarines were designed to be launched from the deck of a submarine or surface ship, or from coastal installations as a coastal defense weapon. The cruiser, IJN Kitakami, was equipped to launch Kaiten and took part in sea launch trials of Type 1s. In addition, several destroyers of the Matsu class were also adapted to launch the weapon.
In practice, only the Type 1 craft, using the submarine delivery method, were ever used in combat. Specially equipped submarines carried two to six Kaiten, depending on their class.
After the end of the conflict, several of Japan’s most innovative and advanced submarines were sent to Hawaii for inspection in “Operation Road’s End” (I-400, I-401, I-201, and I-203) before being scuttled by the U.S. Navy in 1946 when the Soviet Union demanded access to the IJN submarines.
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Farewell Salutes –
Melville R. Anderson (100) – Chicopee, MA; US Navy, WWII, ETO/PTO
Peter Badie Jr. – New Orleans, LA; US Navy, WWII
Harry Belafonte – NYC, NY; US Navy, WWII (Home front) / Singer, actor, political activist
Alejandro Chavez – Miami, AZ; US Navy, WWII, PTO, USS Aubrain, engine room
Leroy Fadem (102) – Bronx, NY; US Navy, WWII, Lt. SG, USS Stevens & LST-871
Lester Finney – England, AR; US Air Force, SMSgt. (Ret. 28 y.), firefighter load master
Fletcher “Buster” Harris – Atlers, OK; US Army, WWII, 325th Glider Infantry
Richard K. Rowe – Limestone, TN; US Army, Vietnam, Ranger, 82nd Airborne Division, Purple Heart
John Seagoe – Cottage Grove, OR; US Navy, WWII, pilot
Cooper D. Wolfgram – Alamo, CA; US Army, HQ/SISCO/82nd Airborne Division
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Posted on May 8, 2023, in Post WWII, SMITTY, Uncategorized, WWII and tagged 1940's, family history, History, Japan, Kaiten, Midget subs, Military, Military History, Pacific War, WW2, WWII. Bookmark the permalink. 134 Comments.
Amazed again by the information on the midget submarines. I’m not sure how five to eight men would fit inside one of them. Was surprised at how many midget submarines were produced in Japan. Did any men ever survive the trip and go home?
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Bev, I know of a couple, but there hasn’t been much research data I’ve seen. I doubt the pilots would not have been very talkative if they survived.
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Very interesting information. I am amazed about this mass production. Best wishes, Michael
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Yes, an incredible accomplishment!
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Thank you, Michael.
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Thank you for all these additional stories and information, GP. These are things we never learned in school.
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I know, right? I have said it a multitude of times – The more I’ve learned about that generation, the more amazed and grateful I am. – and it still holds true.
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No need to prod me. I check out every one that stops by my site.
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Nice
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Your knowledge, and ability to share it here just astounds me! Thank you for your diligent work and for enlightening people like me. I hope all is well in your world…have a super wonderful week!
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Thank you, Lorrie. I am overwhelmed by your praise, but thankful you took the time to read about him!
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Reblogged this on quirkywritingcorner.
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Thank you for sharing this post, Connie.
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Children of the fallen patriots day what a wonderful idea. I was reading a news article this week that said Britain treats it military families and especially lone men very poorly. My cousin has come out of the RAF now with a lot of good training and discipline that has enabled him to become a senior heating engineer and start a family he is one of the lucky ones.
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Of what I’ve heard, he is one of the lucky ones, Charlotte. Please thank him for me for his service.
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Hey, GP. I got a kick out of the engineering comic.
I wanted to let you know that my serial research took me to something you might enjoy, considering your interest in history. I was looking for creatures with green eyes and “designing” a new villain for the story — supernatural of course. If you get the research bug, look up “Old Green Eyes” (or just Green Eyes) and the Battle of Chickamauga. This weekend you’ll meet “Leonidas Gathright”. Hugs.
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I’ll give it a shot!!
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Incredibly impressive research once again. 😊
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Thank you very much, Joe.
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My dad was stationed on the last diesel sub the US had back in the 60’s and he always talked about how cramped it was. I can’t even begin to fathom the courage and dedication it took to climb into one of those tiny little tin cans and go out in search of the enemy. You would think with that kind of tenacity, and many other examples, Japan should’ve won the war, but I guess when you’re on the wrong side, it doesn’t matter just how fearless and full of fight your soldiers are.
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Usually the enemy was located and the midget then released, but even so, I agree. Unfortunately, many of the men were considered disposable.
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Towards the end of the war I think all men were disposable to Japan. The manned torpedo and kamikaze pilots are evidence of that. In some of the books I’ve read over the years they’ve talked about how the midgets couldn’t handle rough seas and how many of them turned over and sank soon after launching. Yet men kept getting in them.
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I’m sure you know then that the regular sailor and soldier were deathly afraid of their superiors – often much more than the enemy (us).
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Yeah I sometimes forget just how much of a motivator being executed for not following orders can be. 😉
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It’s a doozie of an incentive, that’s for sure!
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It looks, Japanese had pretty advanced technology and well developed economy for that time.
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Yes, they did. Plus their engineers and those of Germany were comparing notes on a variety of ideas.
Thank you, Alexander.
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This is why the victory of WWII cost so much blood and human life.
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Yes, sir!
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Considering how many there were it would seem they were not used to their full effect. I can imagine though, after reading your description of them, that they were not the most comfortable submarines used.
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I agree. I think with as many as they had, they could have done a lot more damage, but I understand it was difficult to them out in the area they were to be used. They were often used on kamikaze missions too.
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Well, that took me back, Sir. When I was living in digs, around 1965, I met an American who lodged with us for a while. I can only remember his first name, Kurt. He was part of the squad that made sure things were safe before entry into the underground areas. I was fascinated by listening to him.
Took me back to happier days. Cheers!
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I understand! I really don’t think that the world we have today is what those troops felt they were fighting for.
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My thoughts too, Sir. Sadly.
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You never cease to amaze me with all you know about the military and their toys. Thank you! ❤
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Thank you, Rachel. Some I already knew, but a lot was learned as I researched items. Often, I’d look up one piece of data and discover something totally unexpected!!
Great to see you here again, Rachel.
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It took a brave and dedicated soul to squeeze into one of those things.
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I’ll say!!!! I think I’m pretty patriotic, but that mission would NOT be carried out by me! I do not think they had a choice in the matter though.
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Cool post, GP. I’m fascinated by the tiny subs. Although the prospect of the reality of them is pretty terrifying.
Have a good rest of the week. Hugs.
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I think it must have been to the drivers as well. Most never returned.
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Good to see Harry Belafonte in the Farewell Salutes. He dropped out of high school to enlist in the Navy, but since black service members were not allowed to serve on the front lines (hard to believe, looking back!) his job was to load military ships heading for the Pacific theater. Just before he arrived at the California where this was done, military ships loaded with ammunition exploded killing more than 300 — two-thirds of them Black sailors. “It was the worst homefront disaster of World War II,’ Belafonte said years later, “but almost no one knows about it.’
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It is true about Belafonte, but not African-Americans in the Pacific. For example, the highest ranking Japanese officer captured during the war in the Pacific was taken on the island of Morotai, Dutch New Guinea. What makes that event remarkable is the fact that those who captured him were members of the 93rd Infantry Division, 25th Infantry Regiment. Of the division’s 14,000 members, well over 90 percent were African Americans.
My father also knew some, and they felt the African-Americans back home were given the plush jobs. The Navy also had blacks assigned as gunners. I suppose it was more segregated in Europe.
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Man, I got some bad information on that, then — I forget where I read it. I had my doubts when I wrote that ‘black service members were not allowed to serve on the front lines’ — thanks for setting the record straight, GP, sorry for the balls-up.
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No problem! Do you think I’ve never been corrected? I’ve learned a lot from my readers and I hope readers learn something now and then from me. In my opinion, that should be the purpose of the internet.
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Roger that.
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This was very interesting, GP. They were so tiny!
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Like the old saying, “Dynamite comes in small packages.”
Thank you, Jennie.
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Good point! Best to you, GP.
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Same to you, Jennie.
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Tanks for the good information about the subs.I never know there were so much different sorts
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Thank you, Mary Lou.
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Thanks for sharing these ancient submarines during WW11. Anita
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Thank you for visiting here.
I love your pictures!!
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Today’s drug runners use small subs to move their merchandise stealthily. I wonder if they tried to copy any of these Japanese midgets.
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Everything had to start somewhere. The U.S. had larger subs way back during the Civil War – and I couldn’t tell you how that idea came about. But, now that I think of it, bithe the Japanese in WWII and the drug dealers of today both participated in sneaky operations.
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demented genius
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haha, a good way to put it, Michael.
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I’m sure you know that three entered Sydney harbour on the night of 31 May. Two were destroyed. The Australian War Memorial in Canberra displays one which is a composite of them.
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Yes, and I should have included some of that info in this post – my apologies, Gwendoline.
https://pacificparatrooper.wordpress.com/2015/02/26/june-1942-3/
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Oh Gosh! I didn’t mean to imply that you SHOULD have mentioned Australia. But I had forgotten you’d done that earlier post, and it was fun revisiting it. As I mentioned there, my family lived at Lavender Bay, so it was all a bit close to home.
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No problem Gwendoline. I like to look back in the Archives. My memory isn’t what it used to be.
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they are so small
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Yes, they are. They didn’t really expect any to return after they completed their missions.
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“before being scuttled by the U.S. Navy in 1946 when the Soviet Union demanded access to the IJN submarines.” Sounds like a good decision, G. On another note, I couldn’t help but think of the submarines that were built during the Civil War.
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You are quite right. I don’t know what they weighed in at, but a midget sub is classified as under 150 tons.
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Over that substantially, I think.
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How would this compare to the USS Growler docked next to the Intrepid in NYC.
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The Growler looks small because it is by the Intrepid, but it is a submarine. A midget sub is under 150 tons.
Thank you, Kevin.
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I hadn’t heard of the midget subs. Were they used at all after WWII?
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Numerous countries have developed their own, but mainly for research and then they are called submersibles. For a more substantial answer, Liz…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midget_submarine
Thank you.
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Oh! I’ve known about submersibles, but I didn’t put two and two together.
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Honestly – neither did I. haha
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😀
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I knew of the midget subs, but had no idea that there were so many different classes, let alone the number of them. As to the scuttling, was there any real chance of Russia getting its hands on them, do you know?
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I seriously doubt it. As soon as they made a move – the midgets were scuttled.
Thank you, Helen.
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A terrific post, GP. Amazing information about the midget subs. Thanks
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To be honest, I never knew there were so many, until started researching the Occupation.
Thank you for stopping by, John. (What kind of wine is on today’s menu?)
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We are having a Malbec today. It is one of those varieties that you have to really like wine to enjoy.
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🙄
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😁
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Wow, so many of the midget subs were made! Great informative post, GP. I’d use mopping (with two p’s), though. You can do a quick edit, if you want to.
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haha, I can’t believe I didn’t see that missing ‘p’. Moping makes it sound like the clean-up was done in slow motion. Thank you for saying something!
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I take a p pretty often now, but I didn’t take that one. Honest! 🙂
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😊
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Great details, GP. I had no idea they built so many different midget subs.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Me either Pete. The first time I saw these pictures, I was stunned.
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This is amazing, I never knew that there were so many of these subs built, GP. I’m glad that they are gone!
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True. I knew about a few, the Pearl subs, Darwin, Australia and some of the islands, but I was stunned to see how many were in Japan!
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I’m happy that we won! 🇺🇸❤️
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A Japanese mini sub was the first ‘victory’ in WWII. The first US shot was at the entrance of Pearl Harbor, shortly before the attack. The first shot was taken by the men of the USS Ward. They missed. Their second shot sank the sub. My uncle was on that victorious gun crew, mostly of which were Naval Reservists from St. Paul.
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I know some didn’t believe them either. They just couldn’t imagine Pearl NOT being a safe harbor. But they were proved quite correct! Was your father still on the Ward as she sailed to the Solomons?
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Some don’t believe Elvis is dead either. Even the admiral who refused to believe it for years saw the sub when it was brought up and said he was wrong. It happened.
45 minutes after the Ward fired the shot, the Pearl Harbor invasion occurred. So much for Pearl being a SAFE HARBOR. But I suppose there are people who don’t believe that really happened.
It was my uncle…not my dad. And the entire crew was replaced when the Ward was switched to destroyer duty’
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Sorry for my mistake. Do you happen to know why they would replace the entire crew?
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I think to get a more seasoned crew. They replaced the reservists with men from various destroyers
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I see. I suppose that made sense.
Thank you.
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Never heard of them – fascinating info.
In the USSR, we celebrated May 9th as the Victory Day because, even those surrender was signed on May 8th, the time difference made it May 9th in Russia.
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I understand. Russia is so large, it has 8 time zones!!
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True, but the only one that counts is the time in Moscow.
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Yes, you’re right.
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Reblogged this on John Cowgill's Literature Site.
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Thank you, John.
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You are welcome.
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A very interesting post on a subject about which I knew very little, so thanks a lot for that.
And if people get claustrophobia in an ordinary submarine, then a midget submarine must be a very, very difficult space to tolerate!
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Many, such as the kaiten drivers didn’t have to tolerate it very long.
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I knew about the midget subs, but little. This was interesting.
I always take note of how you introduce the Farewell Salutes. Each time, I think is the best, but this one might actually be. Thank you for your respect for these warriors.
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I appreciate you saying so, Jacqui, but honestly, I feel I owe them at least this much (but so much more). My father, uncle, son and cousin all served during one war or another and so did the troops they served with.
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The HA-19 midget submarine is in Fredericksburg, Texas, at the National Museum of the Pacific War (previously the Admiral Nimitz museum). I still haven’t visited, but it’s still on my list. I’ll confess that Fredericksburg has turned into such an over-crowded tourist mecca, I usually just pass through on my way to somewhere else. I need to plan a visit in the ‘low season’ — like late January.
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It’ll be cooler then too. AND, you never know what winter plants may be in Fredericksburg.
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Learned a lot, GP. Loved the cartoons. Thanks for listing the Military Appreciation dates in May. Think I will borrow them with attribution.
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Those links are for this week’s dates.
This post has for the entire month….
https://pacificparatrooper.wordpress.com/2019/05/06/may-military-appreciation-month-2019/
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Thanks GP.
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👍😉
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Not much fun for the crew
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Truly on both sides, Derrick. Thank you.
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Another interesting and informative post. Thanks, GP.
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Thank you, Lee. I appreciate your visit.
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I learned a little about the midgets because of Uncle Don’s Hancock at Ulithi in late 1944. https://joynealkidney.com/2019/10/04/donald-wilson-ulithi-lagoon/
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You are so right, Joy. Thank you for putting the link in to help aid the post!
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I recall seeing a midget sub in a museum in Norfolk many decades ago. But I can no longer recall where it was found.
I always enjoy your posts because of the details they include.
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They are scattered around, so many were scuttled, it’s great you got to see one!
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I knew they had midget submarines, but I didn’t know that had that many or even multiple classes – wow!
Thanks for all the respect you show to veterans and military personnel.
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I feel we owe them, Dan. I had a fantastic childhood that I think of everyday it seems.
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I have the same feeling when I walk through Veterans Memorial Park. They came home from war(s) and built a playground for their children. They wanted us to enjoy the freedom they had fought for.
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👍😊🇺🇸
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I’ve heard of these but did not know the Japanese Navy had so many of them.
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Neither did I actually, until I started looking into it.
Thanks for coming by, Swabby.
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Thank you, Ned.
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Thank you, Pat.
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