Operation Downfall – part one
The original idea for the invasion of Japan was approved in July 1944 and received constant, precise detailing up until the actual signing of the surrender. Operation Downfall was broken into two separate plans, Operation Olympic which would be followed by Operation Coronet.
With all the devastation already incurred on Japan, a forceful occupation would still be very costly. The Japanese Army controlled the government and their wish was a fight down to the last man, woman and child. Later on, members of that army stated that it would have been an all out suicide effort of every person in Japan to fight to the death.
Operation Olympic, which included 750,000 troops were to land on Southern Kyushi 1 November 1945. In the first wave, Army, Navy and Marine personnel – 436,486; the second wave to hold 356,902. (How they managed to be so specific is way over my head.) The air support would total 22,160. The D-Day Operation Overlord would have paled in comparison and this led the Joint Chiefs of Staff to agree that this rendered Russia’s involvement unnecessary.
MacArthur’s estimations of casualties and wounded that he sent to Washington were judged by the invasion of Luzon. Gen. “Vinegar Joe” Stilwell sent his report based on the Okinawa battles; these were much higher.
While Europe’s “Overlord” had beach codes such as: Omaha, Utah, Sword and Gold, “Olympic” had a variety of automobiles for the beaches that were then grouped by type. Gen. Krueger’s Sixth Army, that included the 11th Airborne Division, was scheduled to land at Miyazaki, the eastern prefecture of Kyushu, the third largest island of Japan. The forty-mile long shallow beach areas were coded as ‘Chevrolet’, ‘Chrysler’ and ‘Cord.’ (Highlighted sections on map above.) At the time, there were approximately 126,000 Japanese troops in that zone. Even after both atomic bombs were dropped, the Sixth Army was expected to have 15,000 casualties.
MacArthur had wanted to keep Gen. Eichelberger close to him and direct the operations since his record with the 11th A/B on Luzon was so efficient. As had been mentioned previously, the five-star general felt that Gen. Krueger had led a rather undistinguished campaign thus far.
The itemized tons of materiel listed in the plans grew beyond comprehension. P-51 Mustang fighters were shipped to Guam still in their crates. Stocking grew on Tinian, Saipan, Samar, Luzon, Hawaii, the Marianas, the Carolines and the west coast of the U.S. (just to name a few). The logistics could only be explained by experts.
##############################################################################
Military Humor –
##############################################################################
Farewell Salutes –
Lawrence D, Adkisson – Wichita, KS; US Navy, WWII & Korea
Maude Bourassa – Durand, IL; Civilian, WWII, Chevrolet Tank Plant
John Collier (102) – Newberry, SC; USMC, WWII, PTO, Sgt, Major, POW / Korea (Chosin Few)
Richard Friday – Washington DC; US Army, WWII, ETO,Co. H/398/100th Division, Silver Star, Purple Heart
Robert Harrell – Morristown, TN; US Army, WWII, Signal Corps
Louis Iauco (101) – Syracuse, NY; US Army, WWII
John Karakiozis – Clarksburg, WV; US Army, Korea, 187th RCT
John Caldwell McLean – Port Elgin, CAN; RC Air Force, WWII, ETO, gunner, Halifax bomber “Willie the Wolf”, Swordfish Sq. 415
John Pluhacek – Omaha, NE; US Army, WWII
Eunice Salmon (102) – Clinton, MA; US Navy WAVE, WWII, nurse
Jane Winstone – Whanganui, NZ; British ATA, WWII, pilot, KIA (1944)
############################################################################################################################################################
Posted on August 29, 2022, in SMITTY, WWII and tagged 11th airborne, 1940's, Army, family history, History, Military, Military History, Pacific War, Smitty, WW2, WWII. Bookmark the permalink. 112 Comments.
I am glad there was no full scale invasion of Japan. The losses to both sides would have been something I do not want to contemplate.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I so agree!
LikeLiked by 1 person
Fortunately, the war ended then because the human toll had been very high, but everyone who had survived would have also been killed. Yet I am not at ease after Putin’s threats. We are not that far from Russia. One ill-considered push of a button and we’re in a new world war.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I understand. But I think he knows, if he were to push that button, him and his empire would be doomed. As much as he wants his legacy to be a re-united Soviet Socialist Republic, I highly doubt his insanity will stretch that far. God help us all if he feels otherwise.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Reblogged this on History and Hobby and commented:
My father was being trained for the Invasion of Japan. He was drafted in 1945 as soon as he turned 18. He was told right from the start where he would go since the war in Europe had ended.
LikeLiked by 3 people
How many of us wouldn’t be here if our fathers were sent into Japan – inconceivable!
LikeLiked by 3 people
Oh my goodness, thank goodness the Japanese backed away before such a mass loss of life. I read an article last week that discussed tiny like helicopter drone bombs the size of your hand were being sent to the Ukraine to help them repel the Russian troops and just thought oh goodness this just isn’t going to end anytime soon.
LikeLiked by 2 people
Russia is warning us about getting too involved in the Ukraine. I hate to even imagine what would be left if there was another world war. Just pushing a button in today’s technology would be a disaster! I hate to think it will become another 20-year war like Afghanistan too. We avoided a lot of casualties by not having to go thru Operation Downfall, lets hope we can do that again.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Your work is very good; I really enjoy all that you do. Also, thanks for your like of post on Matt 5:1-16 ,
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thank you.
LikeLiked by 1 person
You are very welcome.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I still can’t get my head wrapped around how difficult planning the logistics would be. It takes a brilliant mind with common sense and an understanding. That’s a needle in a haystack.
LikeLiked by 1 person
hahaha, you said it, Jennie!
LikeLiked by 1 person
🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
Lookie what I got to see today! I snagged a quick ride out to the ship channel — so great.
LikeLiked by 1 person
OMG, they are getting her moved and repaired – AND YOU got to see her? This is fantastic news!! I wish THIS would have been on the evening news! I’m jealous, Linda, but I’m glad someone as nice as you got to see her!
LikeLiked by 1 person
It was a big deal here, for sure. I couldn’t take time from work to go to Galveston to watch her arrival there, but it was enough to see her in the Houston Ship Channel.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Big Deal is saying it!! Thank you for bringing me the news.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Here’s one more post from a crackerjack local photographer that has some wonderful photos, including one of her safely in dry dock in Galveston.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Excellent photos. Even before repairs, the Texas is a magnificent sight!
Thanks again, Linda.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Amy invasion of Japan would have been incredibly costly and bloody to both sides. You can ask guess at the horrific casualties it would have created.
LikeLiked by 1 person
It would be beyond my comprehension.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I’m always amazed at the magnitude of military operations during WWII and feel fortunate to have happened upon your blog where you inform us so well. Thanks, GP. 🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
I am thrilled you think so highly of this site, TW. Thank you very much!
LikeLiked by 2 people
The preparations were truly mind boggling!
LikeLiked by 2 people
I agree. And to think, today they depend on computers.
LikeLiked by 1 person
But what would the accountants have had to say?!
LikeLiked by 1 person
No clue.
LikeLike
My brain cannot wrap my mind around how many troops were being utilized. Just for this one in two waves almost a million men. That’s just crazy when you think about it.
LikeLike
It would have made the European D-Day look small. I can not imagine what the casualty list would look like.
LikeLiked by 1 person
It certainly would have insane. I believe D day was just in the hundred thousand range. Would have check for exact numbers but I know it was nearly the number these plans for waves had. I don’t even want to consider what that causality count would have been. There was so much loss.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Both the plans and possible loss on both sides would have too extravagant for me to even try to imagine.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I was amazed at all the equipment that was being stockpiled to be ready for an invasion. Lucky the war was ended before they had to attack as that avoided so many more deaths on both sides.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I imagine it as ‘the sigh heard round the world’.
LikeLiked by 1 person
A tremendous amount of hard work and thought went into those plans. I’m glad they didn’t have to use them. I’m sure they also had backups. I believe there is a saying something to the effect that ‘no plan survives contact with the enemy.’
The name of Landing Beach Cord caught my eye. I visited the Auburn, Cord & Duesenberg Museum in Auburn, IN a few weeks ago. Those were fine automobiles. Many probably have never heard of these makes.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I don’t think any plan, no matter how well thought out, survives being put into action.
I remember all the names of the cars. It would be great to go through that museum.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I can only imagine how complicated the logistics are for waging battle campaigns. I’ve been reading War and Peace for the first time, and I’m struck by Tolstoy’s portrayal of war as a confusing affair conducted by inept leaders who don’t even know where their own troops are. Some of the scenes cross into Keystone Kops territory.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I read that in juniour high school, before I could fully realize the affects of what he was saying. I have a copy, I should re-read it, eh?!
LikeLiked by 1 person
Yes, I think you would appreciate how Tolstoy portrays war. (There is some good Napoleon snark, too.)
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thanks, Liz. I just might pick that up again soon,
LikeLiked by 1 person
You’re welcome, GP.
LikeLiked by 1 person
😉
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thank you for the detail on the invasion plans…I imagined that there must have been plans but had never come across information on them. Loved the Tour de France…
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thank you for taking the time to read it, Helen, I didn’t want to get into too many details – that can be tedious.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Again, another part of history that I knew next to nothing about, thank you for educating me –
LikeLiked by 1 person
There are so many tales of the Pacific, each soldier has them. I appreciate you reading my father’s.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Reblogged this on Janet's Thread 2.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thank you, Janet.
LikeLike
How they get such precise numbers is amazing to me, GP. All I know, is my father was very glad not to have to be involved in that operation.
I love that Tour de France cartoon.
LikeLiked by 1 person
This operation never happened, or am Imistaken?
LikeLiked by 1 person
It never happened because Japan surrendered before its necessity.
LikeLiked by 1 person
That’s what I thought, thank you.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Good article. Great humor. Spot on.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thank you, Jacqui!!
LikeLiked by 1 person
Considering the tremendous potential cost of lives during a full-scale invasion, one is inclined to agree with the decision to use the atomic attack that ended the war.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Yes, it was something that had to be done, but even Smitty thought that the Emperor should have been given more time to realize what the Hiroshima bomb had done before they went and dropped on Nagasaki.
Thank you, Peter.
LikeLike
So this didn’t have to happen because the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki ended the war? I must admit I knew nothing about these plans before I read this post.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Planning for the invasion of Japan had been going on for quite a while. Remember, they did have personal laptops to figure the logistics, so careful calculations had to be done and redone as time went by.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Quite the amazing photo of the women. I had no idea (of course).
LikeLiked by 1 person
That was a propaganda picture, but women and girls were being trained with sticks and anything else they could find.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Yes, quite the propaganda machine in place at the time
LikeLiked by 1 person
The cartoon about the first winners of the Tour de France had me laughing, GP. Good one!
LikeLiked by 1 person
I thought it good as well, Bruce. I’m glad some of us are getting a smile today!
LikeLiked by 1 person
The number of troops is staggering if you think the population at that time was not as many as today. I wonder if they can get the same ratio of men in today’s population if we get involved in a significant world conflict.
LikeLiked by 1 person
If a major conflict occurred today, with what technology we now all possess, a lot of the fighting would be done remotely.
LikeLiked by 1 person
That’s a scary thought!
LikeLiked by 1 person
It should scare everybody!!
LikeLiked by 1 person
After reading a biography of General Curtis LeMay, I was stunned that Japan would keep fighting in spite of losing large cities to all the fire-bombing.
LikeLiked by 1 person
They would do as instructed by their government and Emperor.
LikeLike
What an operation, GP. MacArthur was notorious for downplaying the risks and up playing the results. Good thing Joe was on duty. Love that Tour de France cartoon.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Isn’t that cartoon ideal. I had a good chuckle when I found it too!
LikeLiked by 1 person
😊
LikeLiked by 2 people
An assault plan that never took place…thanks goodness. The death toll on both sides would have by far exceeded the toll from the A bombs.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Oh, for certain, Don. I’ve heard and read so many estimates – and not a single one was to my liking!!
LikeLike
Thank you, GP, for the interesting facts!
Joanna
LikeLiked by 1 person
Certainly my pleasure, Joanna.
LikeLike
I do believe that I have complained about this before. Your posts show on my email page as spread across the whole space, so that I have to reduce it down to about 33% to get it to fit in my space, and then it is unreadable. What gives with this? ________________________________
LikeLiked by 1 person
This is an issue that is better handled by the wordpress Support team. I have no idea why that is happening to you.
LikeLike
If he has a 3rd party E-Mail provider he’ll need to check its settings; it might not be WP.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Reblogged this on John Cowgill's Literature Site.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thank you, John.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Happy to share.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I can only imagine the carnage that would have followed landings on the Japanese mainland and islands. I am sure that possible casualties were vastly underestimated, and would have been much higher. Plus the deaths on the Japanese side could have run into the millions. It is a blessing that it was never necessary.
Best wishes, Pete.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I so agree, Pete.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I had never read any specifics about the proposed landing in Japan, other than it was expected to be very deadly. Wonderfully informative post. I love how people like to make fun of the logistics or (in the Navy) Supply Corps officers, but when you look at these statistics, I think people don’t understand the logistical requirements to mount a large multi-site invasion across thousands of miles (whether oceans or landmass). Glad they were wise enough to keep the Soviets out of this since the Soviets did not get into the Pacific side of things until very late in the war.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Russian generals and American ones often did not see eye to eye, as shown in the movie “Patton”. 🙄😉
LikeLiked by 2 people
While doing a bit of research on the Lambeth Walk for my blog, I came across a youtube video, from the British Ministry of Information during WW2, that I thought you might find funny. https://youtu.be/gYdmk3GP3iM
LikeLike
I’ve only had time to scan it quickly, but I was already laughing. I WILL be getting back to it. Thanks, Nick!
LikeLiked by 1 person
The names chosen for various operations or locations often puzzle me. I suppose ‘Operation Downfall’ was meant to refer to the downfall of Japan, but it still strikes me as an odd choice. I puzzled over ‘Cord,’ too. Chrysler and Chevrolet obviously fit together, but when I read ‘cord,’ I think about cords of wood. A little research set me straight. The Cord not only was a car, it was a darned good-looking one.
LikeLiked by 2 people
Don’t feel bad, a lot of people don’t remember the Cord. Being as the US wasn’t building cars during the war years, I suppose the guys wanted to remember their favorite makes, ya think?
LikeLiked by 3 people
That makes perfect sense. Some of them might even have been dreaming of getting one of those cars in the future, when they could come home and begin living a normal life again.
LikeLiked by 2 people
Sounds like a good plan indeed!
LikeLiked by 1 person
At 10 yrs old, I rode in the back of one like this; the photos don’t really show that the front, where the driver sat, was considerably narrower than the back. This was a large vehicle!

LikeLiked by 1 person
It is large, but a good looking one at that.
LikeLike
Thank goodness it didn’t come to that
LikeLiked by 2 people
Amen to that, Derrick!
LikeLiked by 2 people
One can see how many resources can be mobilized for wars. If one would do it for preventing wars, there always no money is available.;-) Thanks, GP! Have a good week! xx Michael
LikeLiked by 1 person
Perfect, Michael!
LikeLike
One of the wisest decisions was to prevent Soviet involvement in any proposed invasion of Japan. Late 20th century history would have been more complicated and violent if any invasion scenario including Russia would have occured.
LikeLiked by 3 people
They probably would have claimed it and set up another satellite country.
LikeLiked by 4 people
exactly
LikeLiked by 2 people
Reblogged this on NEW BLOG HERE >> https:/BOOKS.ESLARN-NET.DE.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thank you, Michael.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thank you as well, GP!
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thank you.
LikeLike
Thank you, Ned.
LikeLike
Thank you.
LikeLike
Thank you, Ned.
LikeLike
Pingback: Operation Downfall – part one — Pacific Paratrooper | Ned Hamson's Second Line View of the News
Pingback: Operation Downfall – part one – Govent.com
Pingback: Operation Downfall – part one | Pacific Paratrooper | Ned Hamson's Second Line View of the News
Pingback: Operation Downfall – part one — Pacific Paratrooper – Reaching out; one person at a time