Camp MacKall (not without a problem or two)
The following story has been condensed from the “Angels: A History of the 11th Airborne Division” by MGeneral E.M. Flanagan Jr.
The 511th made waves for the 11th A/B Div.
General Swing, realized he was commanding an outfit of cocky paratroopers with special jump pay and glider troops who had no voice in their assignment and no extra pay to compensate for being forced to go to war in a rickety, undependable glider in equal hazardous duty. Unless he took some drastic action, the division would be split.
Reports filtered back to Gen. Swing at Camp MacKall that the 511th troopers were full of arrogant, rowdy hell-raisers lacking in discipline. But when the regiment joined up with the 11th Airborne, Swing was ready for them. Henry Muller [G-2 officer] remembered:
“It was quite a shock to us. Gen. Swing, who had heard terrible reports about the alleged rowdyism and unprofessionalism, was determined to ‘make us right.’ The first thing to go were the leather jackets [Air Corps ‘bomber jackets’ issued to flight crews] being worn by the paratrooper officers. Next were the beloved boots for all ranks! We were in a state of shock.
“That dreadful morning when we all had to put on ‘leggings’ nearly broke our spirits – but not for long. The old horse artilleryman [Swing] knew what it would take to bring a high spirited horse under control. In the long run it was good for us too-cocky paratroopers and helped prevent unhealthy rivalry between paratroopers and glidermen. The glidermen had been referred to as ‘Haimes’ at this point.”
Unfettered by his superior officers, Gen. Swing would ensure that the entire division would operate as both paratroopers and glidermen. He set up the 11th Airborne’s own jump schools at Camp Polk, New Guinea and the Philippines.
According to Smitty, the 511th continued to maintain their air of superiority throughout the war which also continued the rivalries; just unbeknownst to most the officers.
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Farewell Salutes –
Allen Bulmer – Bridgeport, CT; US Navy, WWII
Charles Coolidge Sr. – Chattanooga, TN; US Army, WWII, ETO, Co./3/141/36th Division, Medal of Honor
William A. Cotcamp – Whitney Point, NY; US Army Air Corps, Japanese Occupation, MP Cpl., 11th Airborne Division
Charles P. Dugan – Philadelphia, PA; US Army, Japanese Occupation,11th Airborne Division
Everett gasper (101) – Surry, IN; US Army, WWII, PTO, Bronze Star, Purple Heart
Arthur Harrison – Patterson, NJ; US Army, WWII, ETO, 102nd Infantry Division
Kathryn (Hodak) Lininger – Nile, OH; US Army WAC, WWII
Howard S. Magers – Merry Oaks, KY; US Navy, WWII, PTO, USS Oklahoma, Seaman 2nd Class, KIA (Pearl Harbor)
Prince Philip Mountbatten – Corfu, GRE; Royal Navy, WWII, CBI, HMS Ramillies; ETO, HMS Valiant; PTO, HMS Whelp, / Consort to the Queen of England
Ray O’Dell – OR; US Army, WWII, ETO, Combat Engineers
Lyle Reab – Phillips, NE; US Army, WWII, ETO, Pvt., 28th Infantry Division, KIA (Vossenack, GER)
Raymond A. Smith – USA; US Army, Korea, Pfc., Co A/1/32/72nd Infantry Division, KIA (Chosin Reservoir)
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Posted on April 12, 2021, in SMITTY, WWII. Bookmark the permalink. 105 Comments.
We need leadership and incentives in our military today. There are problems that need to be handled immediately, to bring about dignity to our men and women in service.
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Unfortunately – I agree.
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Sorry. A big concern!
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Reblogged this on Ned Hamson's Second Line View of the News.
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Thank you, Ned.
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That was a good decision from Swing to bring paratroopers and glidermen together and get rid of the divisiveness.
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Yes, it was. Thank you, Lavinia.
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It seems Swing’s experience around horses gave him some astute insight into humans as well. Great post, GP. Hugs on the wing.
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He graduated in the star-studded West Point class of 1915. His fellow classmates included Dwight D. Eisenhower and Generals Bradley, Beukema, Ryder, Irwin, McNarney and Van Fleet. Van Fleet had relieved General Ridgeway as commander of the Eighth Army, which included the 187th RCT during the Korean War. But I’ll bet horses taught him quite a bit themselves.
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Haha! I bet they did. I remember you mentioning how successful the class that included Eisenhower was. Tallyho! 😉
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You are in need of good leader, for the possibility doing a great job. Great story, GP! Thank you for sharing, and have a lovely weekend! Michael
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Thank you, my friend. I always appreciate your visits, Michael.
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Thank you very much for the always great information, GP! I hope you are enjoying best weather. Michael
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Yes, thank you. Weather is quickly warming up.
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Great news! Enjoy it, GP! Have a lovely week! Michael
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Thank you, Michael. You do as well!
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A good read! So many important people who need to be honored and remembered! Thank you for sharing General Swing with us!
I see Prince Philip in the Farewell Salutes. That is a nice tribute to him.
“A new man”, eh? He’s looking pretty good, but I’m sure the Army did teach him a few things that made him a even better man! 😉
(((HUGS))) 🙂
PS…How are you doing, GP?
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I’m doing okay Thank you for taking the time to read a bit about Gen. Swing, he was a fantastic leader who brought so many men back home to their families.
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He he reminds me of the guy in that movie who loves the smell of napalm in the morning
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haha, I hadn’t thought of that.
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Reblogged this on quirkywritingcorner and commented:
Besides a great article, I also wanted to share the last photo. It fits with how many of us feel.
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Thank you, Connie, for sharing this post!!
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Great story! Thanks for sharing
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My pleasure, Will. I appreciate your visit!
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Great story.
I like you will never see a refugee from America.
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We have been through a lot, wars, depression and being attacked – we held strong. Wish I would see that today.
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Reblogged this on depolreablesunite.
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Thank you, Rick.
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Dear GP
an interesting story about the symbolism of leather jackets and boots. It amazing the rivalry could be ended that easy.
Thanks for sharing 🙏 🙏
Keep well and take care, our dear friend
The Fab Four of Cley
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
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Though not entirely, I’m afraid. 🙄😉
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Gen. Swing was a great disciplinarian. I bet you, after the initial shock, those guys ended up respecting him after having their bomber jackets and boots taken off.
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You are so right. Thanks to Swing’s leadership, the 11th had the lowest casualty rate. (and all of us kids appreciated that too!!)
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A fascinating piece of history. What a great tribute to your father’s life and achievements.
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Thank you so much for coming by.
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Thanks for your like of my article, “Tribulation Prophecies And Doctrine 1 – Day Of The Lord – Time Areas Within The Day Of The Lord ;” I appreciate your kindness.
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You’re easy to like.
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Thank you very much; you are too.
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😲🤗
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That’s a lovely thought about the Army making a new man of the new recruit !
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I thought it was good. I suppose no matter how good you are, they’ll make you better.
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This is fascinating to me. My father was called Smitty too. I am glad you honor those who serve my friend and what a kind tribute at the end. Thanks for your service and sharing stories with us. Love ❤️ Joni
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I can see that. I think all the men named Smith were called Smitty at one time or another, eh? I appreciate your visit Joni and hope you’ll you come by again.
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I will, thank you. There were probably a lot of Smittys in the military. Thank you again. Love ❤️ Joni
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My pleasure.
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Way to go, General Swing!
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His men would follow him anywhere!
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The sign of a great leader.
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Indeed. Thank you, Jennie.
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🙂
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Reblogged this on John Cowgill's Literature Site.
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Much appreciated, John.
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I appreciate the great stories.
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👍
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Instill discipline by taking away their leather jackets and cool boots, eh?
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Oh yes! Those jackets and boots were strong mojo to the men. 🙄
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I see that eyeroll, GP!
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Oops, ya caught me! You’re quick!
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😀
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Your father was certainly proud of his unit and rightfully so. There has to be a bit of rivalry to keep everyone doing their best.
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That competition did work to their benefit, but they also learned to work as a team. Thanks, Bev!!
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Of de rivaliteit tussen de parachutisten en zweefvliegers ondergronds verder door ging of niet ,doet er niet toe maar generaal Swings zorgde ervoor dat de 2 groepen naar de buitenwereld als 1 overkwamen en elkaar altijd zouden helpen
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Correct. Hij wilde dat ze zouden optreden als een team, een divisie die volledig zweefvliegtuig en parachute had getraind.
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There are always rivalries, as you say…when American troops were posted in the U.K. prior to D Day the jaundiced cry of the British servicemen was ‘ overpaid, over sexed, over here and over us’…but all that was forgotten when it came to action.
It was not wise to post some regiments in close proximity though. Should soldiers of the Black Watch be in a pub and those of another regiment enter,the cry of the newcomers would be ‘a pint of broken squares, barman’ – a reference to the Black Watch supposedly breaking the square at the battle of Tamai in the First Sudan War 1884 – at which point the bonnnets were off and the glasses reversed on the bar.
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Uh-oh, you never want to be around when those glasses get overturned!! I can understand how the UK soldiers felt though. Everyone was so gung-ho!
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Off topic but do you have knowledge of which bases or bases in S. Carolina had the blimps? I have a curiosity because my Dad was in the blimp division in WW2, but he didn’t talk about that stuff and now I’d like to know more. I think his base was in or near Charleston. My Dad is passed away now
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I believe he might have been at the Weeksville facility (located southeast of Elizabeth City). If you find out any more about your father’s unit – please let me know!
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Thank you so much, I’ll dig aroundon the web
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If you have any questions, don’t hesitate!!
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He took their jackets away!! He was a real meanie…
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Aw, they were issued the same as everyone else.
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“just unbeknownst to most the officers.” Laughing. I’ll bet. –Curt
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That’s how I took it!
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Great history, GP. Nice to see the prince honored in your Farewell Salute.
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I always liked Prince Philip, but I have to say, after reading his history, I truly respect the man!
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Yes indeed. The Mountbattons were good men.
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Sounds like quite the leader! interesting though how the rivalry went underground.
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There would always be a rivalry, same as other units. You see on TV, the Marines feeling better than the Navy – the Army and Navy at odds and then there’s the Air Force teased by most everyone. It adds competition and pride, but you know very well, if an outsider picked on any one of them – it would be a joint effort to adjust that situation! haha
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That rivalry existed here, with various units claiming to be ‘elite’. I’m sure it did a great deal for general morale and espirit de corps during WW2.
Best wishes, Pete.
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I think (no actually hope) every unit came out of training feeling like the best!!
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‘you will never see refugees from America.’ GP as nifty as this sounds it runs as contrary to the story you just posted about the paratroopers and glider pilots. The real reason we tend not to have refugees is when things get shitty people use the democracy to un-shitty them. They use government – the legislatures and the courts. There is a ton of history to confirm this. Armed militias not so much history confirming this. The attack on Congress to stop the election process that is things getting shitty. That was an attack on the Constitution. That was and attack on America.
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I took it to mean that we sure didn’t run from Pearl Harbor getting bombed and how many moved to Canada because the Trade Centers got leveled? I believe in people going through the courts and immigrating Legally.
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Fair enough GP. Sorry I misunderstood your meaning. If the poster had been a US Military instead something ambiguous I don’t think I would have questioned it. Considering those other groups I hope you understand the reasons I questioned it. Thanks for responding and explaining.
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No problem.
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Sorry GP. I like the post but not that meme about dusting off guns and calling for insurrection.
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I am NOT inciting insurrection and after all these years, how could you say such a thing? It means that everyone runs to other countries and makes them accommodate them because they are attacked in some way. We didn’t run away when Pearl was bombed, nor did we flee Manhattan when the Trade Centers were leveled. No matter what this country goes through, Great Depression and all – how many felt they had to run away to another country?
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Good wrap up and good humor, GP.
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Thanks, Jacqui. Leave ’em laughin’, eh?
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Reblogged this on Dave Loves History.
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Thank you, Dave.
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Interesting approach. He didn’t eliminate the rivalries, but maybe he did enough to keep the unit together.
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I think he sent a point to the 511th that they were no better than the rest of the 11th A/B. He had to make them a team – the first true airborne division in U.S. history.
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I think he made his point.
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This story could serve as a different sort of ammunition for those who favor dress codes for schools, if not uniforms. Clothes may not make the man (or the kid, for that matter) but they do influence attitudes, and they help to keep attention focused where it should be.
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You most definitely have a point there, I didn’t think of that.
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In other words, rivalries don’t die easily, they just go underground.
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Basically, yes.
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Fun post, GP. Last cartoon reminded me of 6Jan.
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Oops, I didn’t mean it that way.
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Didn’t think you did.
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I tend to forget that the royals also served.
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You wouldn’t figure they’d take a chance on them getting wounded, but serve they do – unlike most of our politicians.
Enjoy your week, Joy, and continue to stay safe.
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Bravo. GP.
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Bravo. GP.
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Thank you for sharing this history.
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