Follow up story for the Battle of Savo Island
With thanks to Pierre Lagacé for finding this information. [Should anyone require research on WWII, especially the ETO, this is the man to know!]
Sole survivor fights to clear WWII shadow
For the follow-up video….
https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/sole-survivor-fights-to-clear-wwii-shadow/4468200
Eric Geddes WINS!!!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-27/raaf-veteran-wins-fight-to-clear-crews-name/5844958
CLICK ON IMAGES TO ENLARGE.
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Farewell Salutes –
Donald Arnold – Des Plaines, IL; US Army, WWII, ETO
Shirley Hugh Barker (104) – Beloit, WI; US Army, WWII, 82nd Airborne Division
Raymond Dietrich – Muscatine, IA; US Army, 11th Airborne Division
Ira Edmondson – Texarkana, AR; US Army, WWII, 42nd “Rainbow Division”
Jack Frisch – Colorado Springs, CO; US Army, German Occupation, 547th Ordnance / NFL running back
Philip A, Goddard – Morrisville, VT; US Army, Medical Unit/82nd Airborne Division, doctor
Carl Humpfer Jr. – St. John, IN; US Navy, WWII / US Army, Korea
Kenneth Kokrine – Tanana, AK; US Army, Vietnam, radioman
Charles Mirachi – NYC, NY; US Navy, WWII, PTO, USS Enterprise / Civilian, US Navy
Ronald Perry – New Haven, CT; US Army, Vietnam, 1st Calvary, Col. (Ret.), Silver Star, 2-DFC’s, 3 Bronze Stars, Purple Heart
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Posted on August 13, 2020, in Current News, First-hand Accounts, Uncategorized, WWII and tagged 1940's, Air Force, Australia, History, Military, Military History, Pacific, Pacific War, veterans, war, WW2, WWII. Bookmark the permalink. 81 Comments.
Reblogged this on Ned Hamson's Second Line View of the News.
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Thank you, Ned.
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LOL… on featured photo. 😃
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Thanks!
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impressive read
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Thank you.
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Thanks for your like of my post, ” Israel In Acts, 1:1-11, 33 A.D., Notes ;” you are greatly appreciated.
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Thank you.
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Thanks for your like of my post, “End Times 22, The Antichrist;” you are very kind. Please keep up your own good work.
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Thank you.
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Excellent story and footage gp, you never fail in your posts, always outstanding historical research and presentation.
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Thank you very much, Ian. That means a great deal coming from you!
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That is some story, and some footage! I am glad Geddes kept up the fight until he was vindicated.
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Eric Geddes knew the value of truth in history. I’m glad he continued the fight and won before we lost him.
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My revised account of the battle https://padresteve.com/2020/08/09/bloody-savo-is-the-u-s-navy-ready-for-a-beat-down-today/
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That is a fantastic job, Steve!! Thank you for helping to correct history.
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The first casualty is truth. Isn’t that what they say? and sometimes the last.
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Especially these days, eh?
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I wondered how many more stories of WWII are not exactly what happened and been covered up to save the skin of someone higher up. Amazing! Now you got my interest to read more of Guadalcanal. I just checked my book “The Pacific War” by William B. Hopkins and saw Chokai played a role in that battle.
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I am so thrilled with your interest in this history, but then again, it is Your history! “Infamy” by John Toland has some useful info, despite not being a very new book.
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Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll check it out. I just started reading “Lucky 666 – The Impossible Mission” by Bob Drury and Tom Clavin. It’s another of those untold stories of WWII about a solo reconnaissance flight into the heart of Japanese empire that will lay the groundwork of the invasion of Bougainville.
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I hadn’t heard of that one. Let me know how you rate it, please.
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It’s about a pilot, Jay Zeamer, who can’t convince his superiors to give him a plane so he rebuilds a dilapidated B-17 bomber from spare parts in the base’s junkyard and then volunteers for a mission that nobody wants. It looks like a suicide mission. Sounds like a good read. As I said, I just started.
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Incredible men!
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I firmly agree with that statement!!
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For some reason, I am not allowed to like your post. Like the video.
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Uh-oh, not another glitch I hope!! Thank you for letting me know.
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I fixed it!!! Yaaaaa!
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Heyy!! Your posts are awesome and this post is soo fascinating!!! His bravery is commendable; I’m fairly new here (I’ve just been blogging for a month now) and it would be really nice if you could check out my site and let me know some feedback (or follow it if you like it 😂) so that I can make it better!! Your experience can help me make my site better! https://whatareuuptoduringthelockdown.wordpress.com/
Thank you sooo much 😊
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I see nothing wrong. You are using Tags, your layout is clean, posts short enough to keep readers’ interest and your content is useful. All I can suggest is going on as many other sites as you have time for, as you did mine. We can’t just expect people to find us in the midst of billions of other blogs.
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Thank you so much for your feedback! I definitely will.. thanks a ton!
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I wasn’t aware of this. Thanks GP.
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My pleasure. We can always count on Pierre’s research.
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I am glad that Eric Geddes was vindicated
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So am I.
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Reblogged this on depolreablesunite.
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Thank you, Rick.
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I watched the Geddes video and read the updated news story. I’m so glad the vindication came while he was still alive. What a horrible burden to carry for so many years.
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Can you just imagine the weight he felt lifted off his shoulders?!!
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I can only imagine!
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Reblogged this on Dave Loves History.
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Thank you, Dave.
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One sailor said…
“I Will Never Forget the Sound of those Engines Going Away”
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He shared that with me as well. Very good information. He is an excellent source.
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Agreed!
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Love the story GP and the cartoons. Keep up the good work.
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Thank you for the encouragement, Pat.
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This Geddes story is remarkable. I’m glad it came to light. Thanks, GP.
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Thank you for reading it, John.
I have Pierre to thank for this research.
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Yes I got that from the material. i’m thanking you for carrying the message. 😁
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Thank you for honoring our military! ❤️
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After all the do for us, I feel I would be remiss if I did not give back in some way.
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I own and have read all 15 volumes of Morison’s History of US Naval Operations in WWII.
Save Island isn’t the only thing Morison got wrong. It can be reasonably assumed that some of Morison’s conclusions were based on his need to please Roosevelt or Roosevelt’s posthumous shadow looking over Morison’s shoulder as he completed the mammoth undertaking of this history. (Note that Morison didn’t write the History alone. Roosevelt had granted him a staff and in many cases Morison acted at Editor-In-Chief rather than the actual author.)
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I find, even today, I find Roosevelt’s shadow affects many points in history. One in particular that stands out to me is the History Channel itself!!
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Good video. Thanks, GP.
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My pleasure, Jacqui. I’m so glad you found it interesting!
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Well done to Eric, for never giving up.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Thank you, Pete, for the cheers.
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No one will ever know where the Navy historian got his source for this. The Navy had to find someone to blame. There were so many cover-ups during the war putting the blame elsewhere…not only in the Navy I am sure. One would be the sinking of HMCS Athabaskan who could have been hit by a second torpedo. The first was fired from the German T24…the second might have been from a British MTB.
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Do you think that mystery will ever be solved?
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No it won’t be solved.
I know one sailor told that he saw a speeding boat going by the destroyer. No German E-boats were on the scene that faithful night.
Some sailors said there was a second torpedo that hit the Athabaskan. By that time the T24 was on its way back and the T27 ran aground.
There is something written about it in the book Unlucky Lady. There was also a research done by someone explaining how some British MTBs were there along with British minesweepers. The two Canadian destroyers were there for support. I will try to find the link GP.
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Excerpt from the research done by Michael Whitby cited in Canadian Military History Volume 5 Issue 1
The E-boat mystery has been put to rest by Michael Whitby, in his article “‘Fooling Around The French Coast’: RCN Tribal Class Destroyers in Action, April 1944.” He cites the German record
of the action and states that the only German vessels involved were T-24 and T-27. This has resulted in the British inquiry being deemed officially correct, with credit for the sinking being
attributed to T-24. Yet this confusion is compounded by the statement in the inquiry’s report that the members of the board: “did not consider [whether] any other ships were present. ”
This is a curious statement. It is quite likely that another ship was indeed present. Unfortunately, it may have been the British Motor Torpedo Boat (MTB) 677 (commanded by Lieutenant A.
Clayton, RNVR).
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It’s sad to read things like that. Now no one is around to answer the many questions.
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Thank you, Pierre.
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https://scholars.wlu.ca/cmh/vol5/iss1/3/
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Wow, it amazes me how casual the investigation was and yet considered the final word.
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I sent you a personal copy GP.
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Another excerpt to close the case… How could the Athabaskan be raked by small arms fire and hit by a second torpedo while the T24 was escaping and the T27 had run hard ashore ?
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Even while Haida was maneuvering to lay smoke, her guns kept firing, scoring their first hit on T-24 at 0418 hours, and another at 0420 hours. At 0422 hours T-27 was observed broad on Haida’s starboard bow and fire was shifted to her. T-24 disappeared into smoke to the east. Haida altered course to keep T-24 ahead and T-27 on the starboard bow. Haida’s gunnery was superb as hit after hit was observed. T-27 attempted to head inshore to evade. Hit repeatedly by Haida. a large fire broke out behind her forward gun making it difficult for her Captain to conn the ship. Blinded and ablaze, T-27 ran hard ashore. The crew abandoned ship while still being hit by Haida’s salvoes. Stopped and on fire. Athabaskan had only minutes to live. The torpedo from T-24 had crippled her. but the
damage was not fatal. She began to settle by the stern and preparations were made to rig for tow by Haida. The 70-ton
pump was being maneuvered aft to control the flooding. As the flooding increased, Athabaskan ‘s Captain, Lieutenant Commander John Stubbs, DSO, ordered “Stand by to Abandon Ship.” Athabaskan’s Radar Officer. Lieutenant Commander Dunn Lantier requested permission to clear “B” Gun of star shell. Permission was granted. After Athabaskan fired her last round. “B” Gun was raked by small arms fire, killing Able Seaman Hubert J. Peart. 22 Seconds later, at the break of the foc’sle on the port side, a second torpedo struck. As the Canadian Naval Mission Overseas narrative states: “If there had been any doubt among survivors as to the nature of the
first hit there could be no difference of opinions in their minds that this was a torpedo.
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I can always count on you, Pierre!!
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Thanks for sharing GP.
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I respect and appreciate your research, Pierre. I hope you always remember that.
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This is fascinating. Bravo to Mr Geddes. You have proved your bravery once again.
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Isn’t that the truth? He stayed strong throughout!
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We really have to honour him, for clearing this task. Horrible how long it can take for the truth coming to the light. Michael
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Thank goodness it did for him. So often corrections take so long that all involved have passed away.
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Sometimes i really think,one is awaiting the passing by of poeple, to cover up.
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That just might be it!!
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Thank you for sharing, Steve.
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Thank you.
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