Veterans Stories – The Atomic Marine
An eye-witness story concerning Desert Rock!
William R. Ablan, pen name of Richard L. Muniz
“They put us out in the middle of nowhere.” Sheriff Toby Madrid had his hands wrapped around a cup of black coffee, his feet up on the desk. The casual laid back attitude belied the tension in his jaw. He also wasn’t looking at JR or me as he spoke, but at the wall. It was almost that if he looked at us, he’d never finish talking about what he had to say.
“They told us we were there to be part of an atomic bomb test.”
The test the Sheriff was talking about was part of what we know today as the Desert Rock Exercises. My research seems to single him out for what was called Desert Rock IV, or a series of tests called Operation Tumbler-Snapper.
From 1951 to 1957, at the Nevada Proving Grounds, a small camp called Camp Desert Rock was built. Its job was…
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Posted on March 5, 2020, in First-hand Accounts, Home Front, Post WWII, Uncategorized and tagged Atomic bomb, Desert Rock, History, Military, Military History, nostalgia, USMC, WW2, WWII. Bookmark the permalink. 91 Comments.
And then Britain followed up with several similar tests on Australian soil. One of the fellows who lives here was part of the British forces at the time. He describes standing out in the desert with only army-issue shorts, no shirt, no protective equipment, etc, and being told to turn away from the blast and cover their eyes with their hands.
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OMG, I never knew about that, Gwendoline!! You didn’t happen to make a post of that did you?
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The United Kingdom conducted 12 major nuclear weapons tests in Australia between 1952 and 1957. Much has been written about them but I have never done a post. Perhaps I could ask Michael if he would like to write a short story of his experience and I could submit it to you as a guest post?
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Either way Gwen. If you make the post, I could reblog it and that way perhaps you would received new readers as well.
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Leave it with me
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This is one of the most vivid accounts I’ve read about early exposure to the bomb and its effects. They were so ignorant of the dangers in those days!
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Yeah, you’d think Madame Curie’s death would have been a hint.
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That’s an incredible account. It is almost unbelievable that we took our soldiers and lined them up to see what happens after a nuclear blast.
Great history. Thank you.
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Our military has been used in many ways, this was unique to say the least.
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Yes, a little bit of “guinea pig”, there. But of course in those days, no one really understood the long term effects of radiation poisoning. Great post, thanks again. 🙂
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Glad I wasn’t there. I’m guessing none of the victims and their families were compensated in any way for the illness’ and deaths? Using your own people for guinea pigs.
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And people want to complain about every little thing today – they don’t know what hard times are.
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So scary, G, that we would use our soldiers like that, sacrificing their lives so to speak. And for what.
“A high number of military personnel who participated in the Desert Rock tests developed cancers and other symptoms associated with exposure to fallout and radiation. Many ended up dying.”
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True. I don’t know why they were so bent on having the men that close.
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Sounded to me like to measure the impact of the radiation.
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I’m sure it must have been.
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I might not have noticed the use of the word ‘downwinder’ on the linked blog, had I not come across it in a blog by a Montanan who lived downwind of the nuclear plant there, and lost family members because of it. No one intends such consequences, but unintended consequences kill just as surely.
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Very true. Radiation poisoning is a horrible way to die, all precautions must be taken.
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I’m late reading this, GP – I usually read your posts the day they are published.
I had forgotten about this human guinea pig story of atomic testing. Chilling reminder …
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No problem. Life gets in the way sometimes! 🙂
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Hair-raising.
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Agreed!!
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Absolutely incomprehensible, an experience from Hell, forever engraved on the mind, no further words can describe my response.
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I understand. The higher echelon had to know what the physical reactions might be, but they ordered it done anyway.
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Wow!
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haha, I agree with that too, Jennie!!
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🙂
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Don´t lie GP.
Sheriff Madrid…. I live here so you are taling about me, just say it!!!!!
Sorry, wonderful story to learn, who knew?
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haha, okay Priest, you got me.
Glad you liked the story.
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Uf. 😦 Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks for coming by!!
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Another example of the malevolence of naïveté.
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True, James, but the higher echelon like Truman and the major scientists knew the risks.
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Thanks again for another experience by someone who was there when it happened. You know how much I enjoy these tales. Still feel our government had little concern for the health of its citizens. All is fair in love and war, especially war.
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William Rablan is putting together a book of veteran’s stories, thought you might be interested in that.
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Wow! 😦
Thank you for sharing this, GP! This one of those times in history that should not be forgotten.
(((HUGS)))
PS…Did you see this? One of the Rosie The Riveters died.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rosalind-p-walter-first-rosie-130939586.html
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Thank you for telling me about Rosalind Walter, she will be included in the Salutes on Monday!
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Speaking of warning people, I guess the remote possibility of igniting the atmosphere was absolutely, positively, dismissed prior to the first test which would assume their physics and math calculations were 100% correct! (Obviously, whatever criteria they used to predict radiation poisoning was NOT accurate.) Can you imagine the trepidation of that first test …to those who knew about the possibility of not only ending the war, but the earth as well …and were not fully confident of the calculations! M 😦
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I remember that fear of starting an uncontrolled chain reaction was especially strong when they tested the hydrogen bomb too. Power does strange things to people.
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A great post and went along with what I I just read that today, on March 5, 1946 the term “Iron Curtain” was brought into prominence. The label had been around since the 19th century, but after Winston Churchill’s speech at Fulton, Missouri, U.S., on March 5, 1946, it became a household word. He said of the communist state, “From Stettin in the Baltic to Trieste in the Adriatic, an iron curtain has descended across the Continent.” Always enjoy your posts and discussions!
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Thank you for adding more historical info here – always gratefully accepted!! I thank you for taking the time to come by.
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Always great to be a part of your conversations.
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And we love having you!! 🙂
Have a great weekend!
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Thank you, GP.
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My comment here below, same as my comment there at source—
“One gathers from these tests that none of the brass or politicos took part as guinea pigs. For the life of me I just can’t sleep at night trying to think why?”
—and the (glib?) (naaaahhh) reason has to be “Oh~! But of course, we just didn’t know in those days!”
And the beat goes on …
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Being as the scientists signed a petition before Hiroshima, Truman had to be aware. I think the lower echelon were the ones that possibly weren’t aware of radiation poisoning.
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Some of it can be attributed to ignorance . . . most to leaders who don’t care but will tell you it’s necessary.
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Sad but true.
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Good reblog, GP. I really enjoyed that first-hand article.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Thank you, Pete.
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That was only about 100 miles north of where I am… (moved here in ’96)
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If I’m not mistaken, the fallout travel east, so you would have been safe – but still no one knew the true repercussions.
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It is a gripping story, GP. Many of the children of these men that were born after the testing were also part of the “fallout”.
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Ah yes! I think you’re the first to think about that.
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Three-quarters of a mile from the explosion is too close for comfort. They were made into guinea pigs for cancer experiments. Bless their souls!!
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You said it, Rose!!
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Exciting and terrifying account of that era, dramatically told: “…. an angry white and black cloud boiling up like something from hell.” Clint Eastwood could make a helluva movie about Toby Madrid and the Dog bomb days.
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Hey – there’s still time. Now, if Eastwood only knew the story……
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Don’t you have his mobile number?
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No I don’t.
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Very interesting story. i am a little bit sad about the officials never told about the issues their projects made. Democracy in theory is sometimes very different from living democracy. Thank you, GP! Best wishes, Michael
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You make a good point, Michael.
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:-)) Something to laugh, GP?
In German, but i think you will understand. 😉
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Google translate gave me enough to figure it out!! Always good to laugh – cures what ails you!
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:-))
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What a surprise to those boys!
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Surprise indeed!!
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Thank you for sharing this story – an interesting and chilling episode in our history.
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Some stories are not exactly my pleasure to report – but history IS history. Thank you for reading this.
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The question now, GP, has to be “Is it history, in the past where it never belonged in the first place?” Or does the beat go on?
The answer will of course only emerge (if it ever does) with death-bed confessions when the present has long become ‘history’.
It of course highlights a need for discretion, but on whose part—the men trained to the point of being organic robots, or their ‘leaders’ pushing pawns around the board?
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If we’re going to be honest here – leaders have always pushed pawns around the board, and that is why we need to read and remember history – in some small way to NOT repeat the largest of mistakes. Or at least prevent a few smaller ones – we have to stop the spiral somewhere. IMO
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Amazing story. I’m awed by such courage. At least our First Responders may have some idea of what they might face–these ‘volunteers’ probably had no or little idea what they were asked to be guinea pigs for.
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How few knew the repercussions of radiation poisoning back then? But still, I feel they should have said and done more – scientists did know how difficult Madam Curie’s death was.
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I think our government and military have a long history of neglecting or intentionally forgetting to let the troops know of long term dangers. Does Agent Orange ring a bell?
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Agent orange rings too many bells.
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When I was looking into the life of Madam Curie, I found out that her letters, books even cook books, were radioactive. Even now, they are contained because of the level of radiation.
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Half-life seems to sound as though the radiation dissipates quickly, but that is definitely not the case.
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This brings home the reality – as if what happened in Hiroshima and Nagasaki wasn’t enough.
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NO, for some reason we had to keep testing. Valid reasons escape me.
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Interesting read from the Cold War. Had to brush up on aircraft knowledge–B-50 and B-45.
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I didn’t follow through the last time around, so I figured I’d include more data at this time.
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See, this is terrifying. So they tell these participants anything? “Painful thunder” sounds rather shattering. Amazing he lived with no apparent repercussion!
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It seems some did, while others lived full lives with no cancer.
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Great story! When we were kids in the 1950s living on the Texas-New Mexico border, we heard about the Manhattan Project. I can remember news reports of nuclear testing elsewhere.
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Being on the border you were up-wind of the radiation and no one told you?
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No, I don’t recall hearing such a warning. We moved there in the 1950s and lived in the country about 20 miles from the nearest town. Carrizozo was about two and a half hours to the west. The Manhattan detonation site is still considered radioactive and is only open to the public once or twice a year. When I was growing up, the bulk of the testing seemed to be in Nevada.
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You’re right there. Desert Rock was in NV, but people should have been warned.
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Woah! Those rope tricks look like an alien encounter. Just as scary.
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I have to agree!
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Shared on Twitter.
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Thank you!!
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