M-5 Stuart, Satan Flamethrower Tank
The light M5 Stuart remained in use as a main battle tank for much longer in the Pacific than in other theaters. It was better than the Japanese Type 95 Ha-go light tank. The Type 97 Chi-ha medium tank had a more powerful 47mm gun, but much thinner armor (only 25mm at its thickest), so the M5 and M5A1 could fight it on at least equal terms.
Being outfitted with a Ronson flamethrower which replaced the main gun. 20 tanks were converted for US Marine Corps in 1943. They were used to great effect on Japanese strong points and caves that proved a tough nut to crack for the advancing Marines.
In Europe, Allied light tanks had to be given cavalry and infantry fire support roles since their main cannon armament could not compete with heavier enemy armored fighting vehicles. However, the Stuart was still effective in combat in the Pacific, as Japanese tanks were both relatively rare and were lighter in armor than even Allied light tanks. Japanese infantrymen were not well equipped with ant-tank weapons, and as such had to use close assault tactics. In this environment, the Stuart was only moderately more vulnerable than medium tanks.
Crews of ‘flame’ tanks were not necessarily more vulnerable than those crews in the regular, standard version of the tank, but the crews of flamethrowing tanks were often treated differently should they be captured alive by enemy troops.
Due to the perceived inhumanity of the weapon itself, captured crews of such tanks were often treated much less humanely than crews of regular tanks. Instances of ‘flame tankers’ being executed by the opposite troops upon capture were not uncommon.
Flame tanks also suffered from the fact, along with flamethrower-armed troops, that all enemy within range would usually open up on them due to the fear of the weapon. (Wikipedia)
This tank is a super rare recreation of the infamous Satan Tank which now tours the show circuit in America.
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Farewell Salutes –
Melton Brockman – Bainbridge Island, WA; USMC, WWII, PTO, 7th Service Regiment, mechanic
Robert Burke – Cincinnati, OH; US Army, WWII, CBI
Cornelius Duffy – Olean, NY; US Merchant Marines, WWII / US Army, 2nd Lt.
Sol Grossman – Boyle Heights, CA; US Navy, WWII
William Harvey – McKees Rock, PA; US Army Air Corps, WWII, PTO, HQ/188th/11th Airborne Division
Nathan Keen Jr. – Lake City, FL; USMC, WWII, PTO / US Air Force, CMSgt. (Ret, 25 y.)
Albert Masserini – Trenton, NJ; US Army Air Corps, WWII, ETO, B-7 gunner, Lt. Col. (Ret.)
Dean Smith – Bussey, IA; US Army, WWII, PTO, medic
Therese Thackray (100) – Yorkshire, ENG; Royal Navy WRNS, WWII, Code & Cypher Officer
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Posted on February 18, 2019, in Uncategorized, WWII and tagged 1940's, family history, Flamethrower, History, Military, Military History, Pacific War, Stuart Tank, veterans, WWII. Bookmark the permalink. 125 Comments.
An often-forgotten fact is that Winston Churchill was something of a “father” of the tank as he pushed for its development in WWI. He is also considered to be the “father” of the armored personnel carrier. When he was Minister of the Home Office (to whom the police report – unlike in the U.S. where the police are part of city government), Churchill personally went to supervise the routing of a group of Latvian (!) terrorists in East London by having steel plates attached to the sides of his Rolls-Royce and driving the car right into the house where the terrorists were holed up. Churchill was nothing if not fearless!
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Interesting post gp, have never had much knowledge of tanks, apart from our Centurion and Leopard in Vietnam, the M5 Stuart certainly sounds vulnerable, and I can imagine why the enemy would take drastic action against those captured crews.
Cheers mate.
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What an awful way to go, eh?
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Ronson lights the first time every time.
These tanks give that motto a whole new meaning
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Talk about starting up the grill, eh?!!
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Reblogged this on depolreablesunite.
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Thank you very much, Rick.
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After “Human body(Anatomy)dissections”, I could not eat “meat”for a while.
“Odor”… became a trauma(T^T)…
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I can truly understand that. I can still smell formaldehyde when I think of it.
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My son was just in the Gunnery.
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Every job in the military is important. Like a huge chain, each link must do its part for it to be effective.
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Ya, I meant that he “just” came out from doing Gunnery a month ago (not “just” as in “only”). I’m sorry I worded that wrong. Yes, what my son does is So Important! He is a Scout and does Reconnaissance. I am sooooo PROUD of him! He is my Hero.
♥️ ♥️ ♥️
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Sorry I misunderstood. In the past, I have had people say my father/uncle, etc. ‘only’ did this or that.
Please shake his hand for me next time he’s home and especially give your son my greatest appreciation for his service.
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Awe, thank you. You are so kind. I will do this!
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Here is a tribute I wrote for my son: It goes along with same rhythm and beat as Everybody Wants to Rule The World, by Tears for Fears… I included the Instrumentals, and Voice 😊
https://hubpages.com/politics/Cavalry-Scouts-Creative-Writing
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A wonderful page dedicated to your son and the units like his. Thank you for bringing the link.
BTW – I stole 2 of the pictures for future Farewell Salutes, I hope you don’t mind.
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Thank you so much for reading it; I didn’t want to be rude by posting the link to your comment section, but I really wanted you to see it, since your writings inspire me, and remind me of my son. 😊
Yes, I am glad you like the photos! The ones of the Bradley or other military vehicle, my son sent to me. I also have more (as always, that do not have any actual soldiers in the photos) if you ever wish to see them, or use them.
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Thank you.
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Oh! Thank you so much for your lovely comment on my Hubpages post! It is greatly appreciated. Made my day. 😃 😀 😊
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My pleasure!
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So scary! I had never heard of this, before! 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
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I know I would hate to see it coming for me!!
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Always a great read.<3
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Thank you, Laleh.
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My pleasure.❤️
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Now I’m retired and don’t go to work, I see so many different vehicles I’d like to go to work in. Just a couple of hundred yards in that Satan tank. I’d pay money for that ! Good money!
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haha, not a bad idea, John.
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I love military humor.
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They do know how to blow off steam and have fun!! Thanks for dropping by, Brandon.
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Not to be a killjoy but if you blow the picture up you can see it is an M-4 Sherman not an M-5 Stuart. The rear of the hull slopes down to the back of the tank not flat like an M-5. Also the turret has a curve at the top not flat like a Stuart.
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I had trouble finding the M-5 Stuart, so I settled for a photo to describe what it was like. I had already done a post on the portable flamethrower.
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OK thank you I did not know they did a flamethrower version of the Stuart so it was a good article.
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Thank you.
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Reblogged this on The Tactical Hermit.
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Thank you very much for sharing this history!
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It’s interesting reading the comments above that “they are still legal”.
I often ponder the ‘legality’ and the morality of weapons—why are some legal and approved, and others regarded as not nice?
Could it be that the law-makers are a bit worried that the things may somehow be used against them, personally?
So we should look at human nature more closely—in desperate situations absolutely anything goes regardless of what the book says. And no nation that has nukes with credible systems of delivery would ever permit a successful invasion by another, so outlawing nukes (napalm, gas, germs, etc) is ridiculous—nice, well-intentioned, but a bit silly. Naive enough to be culpable …
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It seems when war breaks out, rules go out the window.
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It seems to me that it’s a staple of WW2 films that the flamer-thrower tank gets engulfed in flames or blown up. It’s very interesting that the crews of such vehicles were treated very differently when captured.
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The Japanese had no respect for prisoners as it was, so if a member of this team, with the potential to fry their entire unit comes under their control, revenge comes into play too.
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It’s hardly surprising, Emma.
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Thank you for this post; what a weapon. What horror is war though I can understand the need for such a weapon platform from a military and tactical perspective.
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Thank you for your opinion. I appreciate your contribution to this site.
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Reblogged this on John Cowgill's Literature Site.
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Thank you, John.
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You are very graciously welcome.
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Wat een verschrikkelijk wapen.Stel je voor dat zoiets opduikt voor u.Dat overleeft toch niemand.
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I know, it wouldn’t even need to be an accurate aim.
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Wow! 😮 ! That is interesting, amazing, and quite terrifying (to be on the receiving end…AND even just to be inside of a tank!)!
Love the cammo photo and message! 😀
(((HUGS))) 🙂
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After all this time of us following each other, I am thrilled to find out I still had something of interest for you to read and humor for you to chuckle about!! Thanks.
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You’re welcome!
Maybe this is TMI…but we have camo-fabric sheets on our bed. And I tease my hubby that if we wore camo-fabric jammies we wouldn’t be able to find each other! HA! 😉 😀
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🙂 🙂
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And here I thought Ronson only made cigarette lighters.
Two interesting FS today, GP. Cornelius Duffy was only 14 and tried to join the USn, too young so he went to war in the merchanr navy, and switched to the US Army as soon as he was able. Apparently he referred Florida to NY, and thats where he settled,
The last one Theresa Thackery was one of those bright young things working out at Bletchley Park.
Directly under the photo group of this lady on Google is a link to this very post, whether it’s still there if you go check it out I have no idea, but it looks like Google has linked this post to her pictures.
Interesting
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Thank you for adding information about our Farewell Salutes, Beari, always appreciated. I do know that this blog has a Google page rating of 10, but I had no idea they were linking up. Thanks for telling me.
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I wouldn’t want to be on the ‘receiving end’ of any flamethrower, GP. Originally used as long ago as Ancient Greece, it was perfected as a modern weapon by the Germans, who used them extensively in WW1. It really came into its own in the Pacific war during WW2, with proven effectiveness against Japanese prepared positions.
Best wishes, Pete.
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So true. Thanks for adding more info to the post.
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Great information, GP! Waiting on the first flame throwing drone. 😉 Best wishes, Michael
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Now that is a thought. I don’t think it would surprise me either.
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The story of the M3/M5 is fascinating, especially in the Pacific. Nice article.
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Thank you.
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Only if you want a punishmently strong light.
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The last place I would want to be is in a cave with a M5 Ronson equipped pulling up outside. Thanks for the coverage, GP.
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Sure thing, John, and I totally agree.
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I don’t want to be in a submarine; I don’t want to be in a tank . It would take a definite courageous determination to be a tanker .
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Do you think it gave the driver a false sense of security, Dan?
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They no doubt were happy to ride instead of footing it , and with their own armor protection. Still wouldn’t be the job I’d want, GP.
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Agreed!!
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Nasty little bugger. I’ve always liked the Stuart.
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haha, good one Bruce. Most people can not imagine using it, but it served its purpose at the time and in those situations.
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Interesting GP. I almost laughed at the part about treating the crew of flame-throwing tanks less humanely because their weapon was less humane. A distinction without a difference I suspect.
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It sounds that way, eh, Jacqui?! Tit for tat and all that stuff?
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It’s hard to imagine a more terrifying weapon being used between ground forces.
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I sure can’t think of one.
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Can you imagine that thing coming at you?
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No way! That would be an awful way to go!!
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Flame throwers were/are one god-awful weapon.
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When my father saw one on TV he would scrunch-up his nose, he could still smell burning flesh.
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They were in limited use when I was a Marine during Vietnam. I personally never saw one used. I’ve smelled a lot of burning flesh from napalm strikes. I suppose it’s about the same. Ugh.
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I would say so. Do you have a similar recurrence of the smell if you see it on TV?
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Fortunately, no. Watching film of WWII and clearing out caves/tunnels doesn’t trigger a response. I have my nightmares about fighting; and hyper-vigilance, and sudden sounds often trigger a reaction. I’m glad that flame-throwers and napalm strikes don’t trigger anything when I see that footage — I’d hate to become a vegetarian!
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🙂
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Tanks alot for the interesting article on the Ronson lighter’s bulked up cousin. Fascinating article.
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Got the pun – cute! Could you use one to start the grill?
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Only if you want a punishment strong light.
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Interesting post. I always had very mixed feelings about the flame thrower being used as a weapon of war. While war is never humane, this would certainly be a particularly gruesome and painful way to go. It kind of ranks up there with chemical and biological weapons in my mind.
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On moral grounds, it is not used in modern warfare much any more. But they are still legal and usually used by firefighters for controlled burning of vegetation or a farmer’s crops like sugar cane after it’s harvested.
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Without them, the Marines in WWII would’ve had hell trying to clear Japanese tunnels and caves. Horrible, yes, but they saved MANY lives that otherwise would’ve been lost.
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Very true. Perhaps the flamethrower was the onset of the saying , “a necessary evil”.
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Yes. I understand the necessity and am not saying they should not have been used. The bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki also saved countless American lives. Good men sometimes have to do bad things for the greater good. I was more waxing philosophically about my personal wrestling with the emotional aspects of using such a weapon.
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I can think of a few uses on my darker days. Our human ingenuity never ceases to surprise me, this is another example, macabre as it is.
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It was one way to pry the enemy out of their caves. My father said that once you smelled their burning flesh, you never forgot it.
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I can imagine it would sear the nostrils. Smells like that leave a deep impression
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Olfactory sensations can bring on pictures of your memory, I suppose it can also work in reverse where the image brings back the olfactory smell.
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Yes, I understand that to be true, powerful stuff experience and associated memory. PTSD is an example of that power, so painful for so many.
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With this volunteer military we have, the troops get sent on 4, 5, and 6 tours – just how much do they think a person can take?
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Ridiculous way to run the military, high cost in the end at every level, no winners that way.
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Agreed.
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Thanks for the link. 😊
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Sure thing, Hollie.
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😊
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Not being a veteran, I don’t often give military opinions. The Stuart light tank was ideal for the Pacific campaign, since the terrain involved (not to mention weather conditions) were not suitable for heavier and larger tanks. Island warfare had no “rear areas” which were safe; wounded men often became casualties before they could be evacuated.
Considering the enemy’s overall treatment of prisoners, the flamethrower’s perceived “inhumanity” is hogwash.
Great post, GP.
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On many of the islands the enemy was dug in, so yes, this light tank was more efficient in the Pacific.
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Wow!
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A mean piece of equipment, I must say.
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Really is!
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I just saw my question about Ronson answered up above. It seems that the same company responsible for the tank managed to domesticate it for patio use. I see that tank crews named their machinery, too, just as pilots painted names on their planes. “Nasty Girl” made me laugh.
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True, Linda, just think of it as a giant bar-b-que grill starter, eh? Some had nasty messages to the enemy and/or named. Sort of like a man naming his car today.
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I can understand why the flamethrower tanks were used on caves and why the crews of the flamethrowers were treated differently once captured. That thing looks menacingly powerful.
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It is a cruel weapon.
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This is either here nor there, but for some reason I always remembered ‘flamethrower’ as being the final puzzle long ago on Wheel of Fortune, in the catagory of ‘It’s a thing !’… like who would ever think of that haha
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Now THAT’S a flame thrower!
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It would sure start the patio grill up fast, wouldn’t it?!! 🙂
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🤣
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My dad served in the Navy, luckily stateside, in Charleston, SC, flying the blimps. He had no issue with doing his duty but was fearful of dying overseas, so enlisted in the Navy to avoid being drafted to the Army infantry, and lucked out with his assignment
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Each one that comes home is a win!
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I’ll never look at my old Ronson lighter the same way again.
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The ‘little cousin’ of the tank certainly sparked a larger idea, eh?!! 🙂
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I thought I’d subscribed a while back but I guess I messed up, so I’m a fresh subscriber now.. Is that you in the avatatar photo? did you serve in WW2 ??
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I thank you for following, but NO the picture is my father who served in WWII with the 11th Airborne Division.
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That thing would be a nightmare to see coming after you.
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I wouldn’t want it aimed at me, that’s for sure!!
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Interesting video.
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It’s a short one, but I don’t think it takes long to make the point, eh? 🙂
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Thanks, Ian.
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