Bombing of Hill 2380 – Luzon
While the fighting continued on Luzon, Gen. Kenney, Commander of the 5th Air Force, was requested to go to Washington. Plans for the operation (Olympic) to invade Japan were certainly in the works and had been for quite a while, Kenney told Gen. Marshall that they could land there any time they could get the ships to take in the troops.
He felt the Allies had enough troops, Navy and air power in the Pacific, and Japan was about through. He added that he did not believe it necessary to wait for Hitler to fold nor did they need help from the Russians to beat Japan. Marshall did not agree with him and added that they might have to land in China first.
Kenney retorted that the effort to go into China could be used for Kyushu. “It was common knowledge that the Japs had been putting out peace feelers for some time and I believed they would quit by the 1st of July or by September 1st at the latest.” The end result was decided that the occupation of Kyushu would be tentatively set for December 1945!!
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Military Humor –
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Farewell Salutes –
Carl Aiken – Rosman, NC; US Army Air Corps, 11th Airborne Division, Recon unit
Derek Boyd – Sussex, ENG; British Navy, WWII
Joseph ‘George’ Frumkin – Bronx, NY; US Air Force, Korea
Jack George – Juneau, AK; US Army Air Corps, WWII, Lt., B-24 pilot, 15th Air Force
Leonard Loffler – Washington DC; US Army Air Corps, WWII, ETO, P-51 pilot
Clarence Michalis – NYC, NY; US Navy, WWII, USS Hall, Lt. (Lattington mayor)
Silas Peaslee – Yarmouth, ME; US Army Air Corps, WWII, PTO, 11th Airborne Division
Theodore Perry – Buckfield, ME; US Navy, WWII, PTO
Anthony Silvia – Middletown, RI; USMC, WWII, PTO, Pfc, Co. G/2nd Batt/7th/1st Marine Division, Purple Heart, KIA
Murray Wallace – NZ; RNZ Navy # 5728, WWII
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Posted on April 16, 2018, in Uncategorized, WWII and tagged 5th Air Force, Airborne, Army, family history, History, Luzon, Military, Military History, Philippines, veterans, WW2, WWII. Bookmark the permalink. 93 Comments.
Reblogged this on Ancien Hippie.
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You’re the best, Penny, thank you.
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Reblogged this on PenneyVanderbilt.
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Thank you, Penny, for all you do.
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Mountains are not defined by their elevation purely, but the might their summit holds.
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These hills were designated by height. With the Japanese dug in to massive tunnel systems, it was difficult to determine resistance.
Thank you for coming by, Tom.
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Weer een zeer goed uitfewerkte informatieve post
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Thank you very much, Mary Lou!!
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Thank-you for sharing this story with us
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It’s what I do.
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Reblogged this on Give Me Liberty.
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Thank you for sharing this.
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Fighting on two massive theatres at the same time would have been impossible for most any other nation. I guess the badguys didn’t count on your ability to do that. I’m not aware of what commitment US Allies were able to contribute in the Pacific?
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I think a quite a bit. This war put a mighty nation in their own backyards. We would have more info on them if the records weren’t so often grouping them together as the Commonwealth – and if MacArthur would have shared some more of the responsibility. New Zealand and Australia remained loyal to the UK and fought hard in Africa and the ETO, but Japan put the war a bit close to home.
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That film clip was a fine example of close air support for engaged infantry, GP. A real indication of the need for effective communication between ground and air too.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Not at all like today, eh, Pete?
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In the ETO an airman would join advancing ground troops; and contact pilots with relevant information (using pilot terminology) to pinpoint targets. Ought to have used this instead.
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The Germans fought a whole different war than the Japanese. It is difficult to compare the two systems of combat.
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Reblogged this on John Cowgill's Literature Site.
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Thank you, John.
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You are very welcome.
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The post very informative … but the Stealth Fighter steals the show~!
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Glad you liked it — even if you couldn’t see it!!
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Excellent, GP
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Thank you, John.
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I love the cartoon about the stealth fighter!
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Isn’t that one good?! I’m surprised you’re the first to mention it.
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That was a dramatic film, G. I thought I would glance at it and it held me to the end. Things don’t get any more real. –Curt
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I appreciate that, Curt. I usually only use 2-3 minute videos, but this one I had to have!
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Getting into the photos you hav included Past posts and present 💝. Still love doing the fairwell salutes Thank you. Still love
Read: http://www.sheilaclapkin.com
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I remember reading that poem, Sheila, but re-read anyway. It’s always a pleasure going into your site!! And as ever – thanks for doing the Salutes!!!!!
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I enjoyed that video, very much. Interesting to see what went into planning and organizing such a battle.
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A lot different than what we see today, eh?!
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Seriously.
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Amazing film… a true look into getting the job done. M 🙂
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I appreciate you taking the to watch it. My thanks!!
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That video was a great find! It’s not often that you can listen to the conversation between air and ground troops.
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Thank you. That’s exactly why I had to make a post for it!! (I found it looking for something else – of course!)
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It just doesn’t get more realistic than that video, does it.
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No. This wasn’t staged like so many pictures were.
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I was unaware the Japanese, unlike the Germans, were putting out peace feelers. Had always assumed they had battened down to slug it out. Thanks for the info.
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One knows about pride and ‘saving face’, but they were also trying to save their people and nation as a whole as well.
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Oh!!
(…The Soviet Union betrayed Japan at Yalta Conference~…←secret talk..XD!!)
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Would you expect otherwise from them?
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About Before World War II ,Ambassador of Japan:Joseph Clark Grew sent official document to the Department of State .
~Foreign Relations of the United States~
http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/FRUS/FRUS-idx?type=turn&entity=FRUS.FRUS193141v02.p0777&id=FRUS.FRUS193141v02&isize=M&q1=Grew
No;711.94/1935
In a certain sense, USA was fooled by Comintern ,so,USA flamed Hatred against Japan.
If USA understood correctly real Japan of Democracy at that time,
if USA noticed that Comintern set a trap (construct a Pearl Harbor attack) to Japan …
as a result of destroying the military power of Japan…
“USA the world police” It did not become the current Hard situation that had to be gotten into.
Now,2018,
Russia, Syria, Iran, Israel, the United States, etc..and the Asian region … the world is now a big mess.
So, we never be fooled by any trap and
We must join hands each other absolute,I think!!:D
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The ordinary ppl believe by listening to propaganda movies, books, false stories, etc from childhood.
However, USA is disclosing information.
http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/FRUS/FRUS-idx?type=header&id=FRUS.FRUS193141v02
Ppl need to investigate by oneself “What is the real structure in the past”.
In Japan, anti-Japanese has been entering the National Assembly after 1945,they always disrupts the meeting( including the block of bill to disclose information).
Japan must block the communism from them in own Nation.
The world is busy! 😀
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I agree – the world is too busy.
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If you can not open this URL,I paste here↓
711.94/1935:Telegram
The Ambassador in Japan (Grew) to the secretary of State
[Paragraph]
Tokyo, January 27,1941-6p.m.
[Received January 27-6.38a.m.]
125. A member of the Embassy was told by my・・・・colleague that from many quarters, including a Japanese one, he had heard that a surprise mass attack on Pearl Harbor was planned by the Japanese military forces, in case of “trouble ” between Japan and the United States; that the attack would involve the use of all the Japanese military facilities. My colleague said that he was promoted to pass this on because it had come to him from many sources, although the plan seemed fantastic.
Grew
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Attack on Pearl Harbor On December 7, 1941,
But,
In the United States (State Department Diplomatic Document Library, University of Wisconsin)
On January 27, 1941 ,President Roosevelt already knew!! and it has be released .
It is Proof that Pearl Harbor was not a Sneak attack of Japan.
IF, depending on the Judgment of Roosevelt (Comintern),
There was no need to make a cruel fight like this Iwo Jima or Luzon Island etc..
Many soldiers did not have to suffer.
And there was no need for ordinary people who are not soldiers to “hate” each other in propaganda.
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By the way,the last Cartoon which was drawn,my late father often drew like this image!!:D
That’s nostalgic!!:D
My late father climbed Mt. Fuji with US soldiers in recreation.
Sometimes ,also had a Barbecue.I thought that American is Huge Body!!XD!!
Nostalgic! !
Thanks Nice Images!!:D
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I’m glad I could make you smile and have a nice memory of your father.
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We know all that now – looking back. But in 1941, we did not have the technology, the communications to inform the public of what FDR and Sec. Hull were up to. Since the government in Japan controlled the media in your country, the Japanese public weren’t aware of what was planned either.
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I know that Washington was aware of the planned attack, but there are many who refuse to believe it.
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True, Nasuko! Mr. Grew did his best to stop the Pacific War, but I’m afraid it was inevitable due to the European situation.
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collect URL↓
I took a pic,try to paste it,but I can not paste.
http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/FRUS/FRUS-idx?type=goto&id=FRUS.FRUS193141v02&isize=text&submit=Go+to+page&page=133
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Thank you very much, Nasuko. I have saved both the link and the letter itself to my document file. This is appreciated, my friend.
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Another great post, thanks.
If you wouldn’t mind would you PM me at my website, I have a question.
Thanks,
Bart
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You can ask whatever you wish right here, Bart too. Only you and I can see the comment until I approve it, so just say for me to delete it if you so wish.
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Great post!
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Thanks.
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Welcome!
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Eventually got it. Thanks, GP
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Huh, and I just answered your other statement. See what persistence does?!!
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🙂
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I’m sorry to hear that Derrick. Must be a conflict in carriers. I appreciate you trying.
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As you now, know. I got there eventually 🙂
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😎
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FYI – USMC R Lee Ermey has died.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Lee_Ermey
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Thank you very much for informing me. I couldn’t help but smile whenever I saw him on the screen!
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That was one of the best war videos I’ve seen, in terms of explaining what the heck is going on. But still there was an element of the “fog of war” that probably can never be eliminated. Great post, GP!
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No, I don’t suspect that fog will ever be lifted.
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Thank you for including the video, GP!
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My pleasure. I beam with pride over those guys!
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Fascinating. Thanks
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Thanks, it’s what I do.
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Cool video, took a while for the pilots to drop the bombs in the right place, not an easy job I suspect.
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It was a far cry harder back then it is now, eh?!
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Hah! 🙂
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Thanks for this, I’ll have to catch the video during lunch – I’ll be back.
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No problem, Dan.
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Interesting that they thought the Japanese would surrender by September 1945. Could we have avoided Hiroshima and Nagasaki? I guess that’s an ongoing debate with no clear answer.
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I included the general’s quote just for that reason, and yes the dropping of the A-bombs is still a debate to this day. Gen. Marshall, as good a general as he was, still felt obligated to voice the agenda of his president and was not about to agree with Kenney. You might remember that Japan put out requests to FDR before Pearl Harbor to bring peace, but all inquiries fell on deaf ears.
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Yes, just tragic on so many levels. I wonder what the world would be like if those bombs had not been dropped. Would one have been used in some later conflict? Or would we all still be waiting for the first one?
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I think it just might have been used in Korea, but there were so many mixed emotions when word got out about the radiation effects, it was not used.
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But would they have known those effects if there had not been Hiroshima? Have those effects deterred us from using it again? I am not at all saying that Hiroshima was justified, but rather that there might have been one first time—maybe in Korea or Vietnam—to teach us the devastating effects of the Bomb. What I will never understand at all is Nagasaki. That was just gratuitous murder with absolutely no justification.
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I know I didn’t explain myself before, sorry. Using the bomb in Korea WAS discussed, but after learning the effects, it was denied. Who knows, if it was used on North Korea then, would we be having Kim problems today?
They expected Japan to surrender after Hiroshima, but can you imagine being in Tokyo and hearing that a whole city has been wiped off the map? The Emperor decided to see the city for himself. By then, the second bomb was ready, Kokura was the target. Just as before, weather altered their destination and Nagaski was hit.
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Just so inhumane and unnecessary—perhaps both, but certainly the second one.
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Who in their right mind would have believed the devastation. Perhaps they didn’t realize it because Hiroshima was already in complete ruin before the A-bomb dropped.
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Maybe, but I think they had a pretty good idea. After all, they knew it would be the end of the war.
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They hoped it would be anyway.
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Mt. Suribachi is a tiny hill compared to Mt. Banahaw which is more than double the height of Mt. Makulot. Thanks for showing the video. Always enjoy seeing those video of the Pacific War. I see Clarence Michalis on the Farewell Salutes. Thanks.
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I am honored to have Mr. Michalis included. Thank you, Rose.
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