Gen. Kenney and Charles Lindbergh
On 4 July 1944, a correspondent notified Gen. Kenney that Colonel Charles Lindbergh was in New Guinea. Kenney did not know about it and neither did General HQ! So the Colonel was flown to Brisbane to explain his presence. He wanted to know more about fighter design, especially how well the 2-engine P-38 could hold up against the enemy one-engine models.
Kenney suggested they go to see MacArthur for Lindbergh’s official status paperwork. When Mac asked the colonel what he could do for him, Kenney interrupted, he wrote in his reports:
“I said I wanted to look after him… If anyone could fly a little monoplane all the way from New York to Paris and have gas left over, he ought to be able to teach my P-38 pilots how to get more range out of their airplanes. If he could do that, it would mean that we could make longer jumps and get to the Philippines that much quicker…”
Mac said: “All right Colonel. I’ll just turn you over to General Kenney, but I warn you. He’s a slave-driver.”
Kenney instructed Lindbergh that during these teachings, he was not to get himself into combat, he was a high-profile personality and a civilian! For 6 weeks everything went well. Lindbergh taught the pilots how to stretch their distance from 400 to 600 miles, spending most of his time with Col. Charles MacDonald’s 475th Fighter Group, Fifth Air Force. The men became so enthusiastic, they began to talk about stretching their distance to 800 miles!
During a raid on the Japanese oil depot at Boela, on Ceram Island, a lone enemy aircraft suddenly aimed for Lindbergh, who fired a burst and the Japanese airplane went down. Kenney was told about the incident, but being as no one claimed credit for the action, the General could pretend he never knew.
Photo is by Teddy W. Hanks who was a member of the 433rd Squadron, 475th Fighter Group at that time. The photos were taken on Biak Island in July 1944. They had just returned from a combat mission to an unrecorded enemy area. The P-38 obviously was assigned to the 431st Fighter Squadron because the propeller spinner is a solid color — apparently red. The spinners in Teddy’s squadron, were blue and only the back half were painted. Could very well have been McGuire’s plane, # 131, since he was assigned to the 431st at that time.
To prove the long-range capabilities, Lindbergh, Col. MacDonald, LtCol. Meryl Smith and Captain Danforth Miller headed for Palau, 600 miles north, in their P-38’s. While strafing an enemy patrol boat, Japanese pilots went air-borne and Lindbergh discovered that once an enemy airplane was on his tail – he could not shake it. Luckily, he was traveling with 3 experts who downed the Japanese before they got him.
But, there was never to be a ‘next time.’ Kenney felt the celebrity was pushing his luck and Lindbergh agreed; he also had taught the pilots all he could. As long as the war on, he would not mention his combat experiences. Colonel Charles Lindbergh headed back for home.
Information taken from “General Kenney Reports: A Personal History of the Pacific War” by George C. Kenney
Click on images to enlarge.
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Farewell Salutes –
Ted Acker – Wooster, OH; US Army Air Corps, WWII, PTO, 11th Airborne Division
Joan Carby – Bolton, ENG; British Army, WWII, ETO, radio operator
Milton DeVries – Grandville, MI; US Army, WWII
Charles Eby Jr. – Kensington, MD; US Army Air Corps, WWII, ETO, B-17 pilot / Korea
Guy Hunter Jr. – Atlanta, GA; US Army, WWII
Max Lyons – Tasmania, AUS; RA Navy # H2578
Donald Minnich – Virginia Bch., VA; US Navy (Ret. 26 yrs.), WWII, Korea & Vietnam, USS Pine Island
Phyllis Paul – New Westminister, BC, CAN; RC Medical Corps, WWII, ETO
Harold Rothbard – Brooklyn, NY; US Army Air Corps, B-17 tail gunner
Herbert Sweney – Auckland, NZ; RNZ Navy # 7650, WWII
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Posted on November 28, 2016, in First-hand Accounts, WWII and tagged 1940's, Airborne, aviation, Gen. Kenney, History, Lindbergh, Military History, Pacific, veterans, WW2, WWII. Bookmark the permalink. 103 Comments.
Interesting story – things like this often get lost in the bigger histories.
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So true. I’ve always wanted to hear personal stories, rather than the “names and dates” type of teaching in schools.
Thank you.
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It’s also good to know about the less famous parts of people’s lives. There is so much more to Lindbergh than just flying across the Atlantic, for instance.
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Oh much more! He grew as a person and an aviator as the war went on.
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This Lindbergh story was Great! Even if it was published long ago- 2016..it still rings as true today as yester years.💖
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I agree!
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A CBS “Sunday Morning” reporter said today (Dec. 11) that Astronaut John Glenn told him he was one of the pilots flying in combat with Lindbergh. Glenn later did some test work for Lindbergh but said he did not know him personnally.
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I did not know this. Thank you for contributing.
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Reblogged this on quirkywritingcorner.
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Thank you very much. This gives us another look into these two men of history.
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Thanks for that informative post gp, new a bit of Lindberghs aviation history and exploits, but never knew his role assisting the Military aviation, a very remarkable man considering he came under fire as a Civilian.
Cheers.
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An article I read about his wife stated he regretted some of his youthful choices later on. By and large, I suppose he was as human as the rest of us. I’m glad you found it interesting.
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hello gp cox its dennis the vizsla dog hay i like that gif of the airplayn it seems like the rite wind kondishuns kan mayk enny playn a vertikal taykoff playn eh??? ok bye
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Glad you enjoyed it, Dennis! Smiles are important.
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I had never heard about Lindbergh training the pilots during the war. He seemed to have had some close calls so Lucky Lindy was a good name for him.
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This little exchange here about this article has taught most of something about the unique man. Glad you did too, Bev!
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Pretty fascinating stuff.
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Both men were excellent in their fields!
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Lindy was one of those iconic characters from the pages of history. Great post;
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That he was. I thank you for dropping in, Deano!
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Thank you for writing a great blog GP
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Thanks for saying so!
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Reblogged this on KCJones.
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Thank you, Penny!!
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I was unaware of these events . It re-kindles my faith in Lucky Lindy again . I was discouraged about his apparent Nazi support . I heard that he had a German mistress , too. That shadowed his Atlantic crossing exploit earlier on ; but to know he was still a true patriot is important to know .
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He was as human as you and I Dan. He regretted early remarks and choices when he matured, just as so many of us have.
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Thank you for presenting some little known facts about Charles Lindbergh, his involvement in the Pacific, teaching pilots to stretch the distance from 4oo to 600, and his hair raising flight, all things I did not know about Lindbergh. I am also fascinated by your reader’s comments. I would really love to know what Lindbergh’s method was to extend the distance. Could you elaborate on this a little, GP?
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He extended the range of the P-38 through improved throttle settings, or engine-leaning techniques, mainly by reducing engine speed to 1,600 rpm, setting the carburetors for auto-lean and flying at 185 mph (298 km/h), the indicated airspeed which reduced fuel consumption to 70 gal/h, about 2.6 mpg”
I appreciate your interest, peter.
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Thank so much for explaining it to me! It seems like Lindbergh was not a magician, but rather an expert of technical knowledge and experience.
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The subject of aviation was his top interest – I suppose that’s obvious, eh?
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I couldn’t take my eyes off the “hairy situation” GIF 😉
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It does have that kinda ‘hypnotic affect’, huh? haha
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Interesting . . . had not heard about it before and did some additional reading:
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/lindbergh2.htm
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Yes, an excellent article, especially since it includes an eye-witness report! Thank you for sending the link.
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Great story! Thank you.
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You are very welcome. Sometimes human-interest stories get lost in the war-time shuffle.
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I’m so glad you said that, because human interest stories bring life to… well, pretty much everything.
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I’m glad you agree. I don’t think anyone can get the whole picture by absorbing just the facts and statistics.
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Exactly!
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Another WWII favorite plane.
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Yes it was. I’m glad you found it interesting.
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I enjoyed this story and the information
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I’m thrilled to hear that Mary Lou!
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Excellent post GP.
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Thank you for coming, John.
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🙂
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Interesting post, and news to me that “Lucky Lindy” flew combat missions.
Even if deeply flawed, I don’t think he can just be defined by his anti-Semitism or coziness with the Fascists. And people forget the post-WWI generation included a lot of antiwar folks, many especially suspicious of interventionism, having learned of war profiteering through Congressional investigations, and of large-scale propaganda efforts in the U.S. by foreign powers, most notably, the British government.
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You bring up valid points, Robert and I can assure you that the regular readers of this site are just looking for all the truthful facts of this war. One of my mottoes has always been that History must be remembered, even if we don’t like what we hear. It should not ever be erased. [as some people try to do with the Confederate flag]. Lucky Lindy was as human as any one of us and people today must take into consideration that was a different time, a different world and we must learn from it – not judge it.
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Those gifs were hilarious GP.
Leslie
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Glad you enjoyed the humor, Leslie. I try to put in something for everyone!
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Well done, GP.
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Thank you.
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Most of what I know about Charles is from reading his wife’s, Anne Morrow Lindbergh, works. This is a new story! He was certainly a patriotic fellow.
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Yes, he was. I appreciate you coming by to visit today and reading.
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Wow. Excellent post. Quite interesting.
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Thank you very much, Cate. Your comment is much appreciated.
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Also, Lindbergh does not get a very good press over here either. I checked on Wikipedia which says…”“Lindbergh specifically opposed military aid to assist England in 1939…. Lindbergh argued that America did not have any business attacking Germany…. Lindbergh proposed that the United States negotiate a neutrality pact with Germany”. I’m just glad he was outnumbered by the rest of his fellow Americans!
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Actually the majority were isolationists after WWI, in that world, his opinion was not rare. Kind of ironic actually, people thought England had stuck their nose in where it didn’t belong in Europe – and now look at the US today – sticking their nose in everywhere.
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That poor man! Mind you he ought to know that wind and wigs don’t mix.
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You’d think he’d know that, wouldn’t you?!! Superglue time?!!
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Wow! That’s a great story, thank you
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My pleasure, thanks for coming by.
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Very interesting post. Never knew that he helped and could see why they would have to wait till the war was over with before saying anything. Smiling at the humor section. Think he should get out of the road..lol.
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Yes, the US didn’t want the enemy finding out how far they could stretch these airplanes and Lindbergh didn’t want people to know he got himself caught in a jam! haha
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That sure makes sense, Everett!
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Fascinating post! Always been interested in Charles Lindbergh.
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I’m glad. Lindbergh was well liked around the world.
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It is nice to read something positive about Lindbergh. He was closely associated with Nazi ideals for a time, as well as their racial theories too. Here are some links.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/lindbergh/sfeature/fallen.html
http://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/201613/Charles-Lindbergh-Hitler-s-all-American-hero
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22684773
Such a shame that he tarnished his earlier reputation by associating himself with their ideas.
Best wishes, Pete.
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It was nice of you to send these links, Pete. Hollie, from ‘Heartafire’ was anxious to do more reading on Lindbergh too.
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It was a shame that he became a ‘fallen idol’, GP. He went down the same route as our abdicated king, Edward VIII. Choosing the ‘wrong side’ has its consequences…
Regards, Pete.
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He regretted a lot of his earlier opinions and decisions, he didn’t deserve to lose his son the way he did though.
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I agree with that of course, GP. But I do wonder if that excuses his embracing the policies of the Nazis. Perhaps he was traumatised?
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Well now, you have a point there that I hadn’t considered.
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Great story, I had previously read about Lindbergh’s technical contribution to getting more range out of a P-38 there. The pilots implemented his tips and they got more mileage for gas.
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Being as the Pacific was never getting the amount of supplies as Europe, this technique was imperative! Thanks for dropping in, Mike.
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It’s amazing that he could get the range up from 400 to 600. Considering what that distance meant to operations, that was invaluable training.
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I found it amazing, I was hoping you guys thought so too. Thanks for reading it, Dan.
(and for listening to me get a lot off my chest this morning!!)
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Anytime – Sorry about having to moderate the links. That’s a reaction to the stuff I was writing about today. I used to allow one link without moderation. Then I saw some of the stuff that was sneaking in, and I had to change the policy. I was sad.
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No need to apologize. I opted to moderate all comments from the beginning to not only use it like another email, but because I figured I might get younger people here and I see no reason why the should read foul language or comments that don’t apply.
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A great post.
The loosing his wig is funny.
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I thought those were funny gif. images to have for an aviation story! Glad to give you a smile!
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What I like about this story is that the smaller wars with pilots who flew over many areas are given light. Usually people overlook the sacrifices of the lesser known battles. Good context!!
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This war was so wide-spread, it is very difficult to document them all. Researchers need to check and re-check the logs of the military all the way down to the diaries of soldiers and civilians. And, it still amazes me that with the size of the Pacific War – the European Theater overshadowed it. I suppose because so many Americans still had family over there.
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Truly, the European war dealt with the invasion of Poland by the Germans hand Soviet Union alliances. It’s what ushered in the Cold War era on the heels of the Pacific Wars. The timeline is very close together.
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Very true.
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This is interesting fact. We are proud of Lindbergh although he was born in the USA had Swedish ancestors.
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I glad he did his heritage proud. He was a brave and intelligent man. Thank you for coming by.
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I enjoyed learning a little more about Lindbergh.They should have expected a guy like that would push his luck. But he taught the pilots some valuable lessons.
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I knew he would somehow end up in combat too. We both read his character well.
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Another very interesting Post. Find your “Farewell Salutes” so touching.
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I wish I could do all of those I find, but I don’t think wordpress is big enough! I appreciate you reading those I do post.
Should you have information on someone you would like remembered – just put the info in my comments.
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Wonderful text and photos. Lindbergh is a hero of mine. Recently I was told by a Canadian friend that he was anti Semitic…do you know of anything to base that on JP?keep up the fine work. I really enjoy your detailed and intricate writing.
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I don’t know about that. He did support the Japanese-American interment camps though.
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I will need to do some research on him. Those were very different times, I hope they aren’t coming around again. Have a beautiful day GP!
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I don’t think they will, especially if we have people you around, Hollie. Pete has also sent some links here for you to read up on Lindbergh.
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Thank you ! I really had not heard this before and was surprised and curious.
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No problem. We both learned something new today!
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🙂
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You might be interested in both of these sites:
http://www.pbs.org/perilousfight/social/antisemitism/
http://charleslindbergh.com/ny/105.asp
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I will check that out. Thank you!
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You’re welcome!
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Thank you.
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