Camp MacKall cont’d
The following story has been condensed from the “Angels: A History of the 11th Airborne Division” by MGeneral E.M. Flanagan Jr.
The 511th made waves for the 11th A/B Div.
General Swing, realized he was commanding an outfit of cocky paratroopers with special jump pay and glider troops who had no voice in their assignment and no extra pay to compensate for being forced to go to war in a rickety, undependable glider in equal hazardous duty. Unless he took some drastic action, the division would be split.
Reports filtered back to Gen. Swing at Camp MacKall that the 511th troopers were full of arrogant, rowdy hell-raisers lacking in discipline. But when the regiment joined up with the 11th Airborne, Swing was ready for them. Henry Muller [G-2 officer] remembered:
“It was quite a shock to us. Gen. Swing, who had heard terrible reports about the alleged rowdyism and unprofessionalism, was determined to ‘make us right.’ The first thing to go were the leather jackets [Air Corps ‘bomber jackets’ issued to flight crews] being worn by the paratrooper officers. Next were the beloved boots for all ranks! We were in a state of shock.
“That dreadful morning when we all had to put on ‘leggings’ nearly broke our spirits – but not for long. The old horse artilleryman [Swing] knew what it would take to bring a high spirited horse under control. In the long run it was good for us too-cocky paratroopers and helped prevent unhealthy rivalry between paratroopers and glidermen. The glidermen had been referred to as ‘Haimes’ at this point.”
Unfettered by his superior officers, Gen. Swing would ensure that the entire division would operate as both paratroopers and glidermen. He set up the 11th Airborne’s own jump schools at Camp Polk, New Guinea and the Philippines.
According to Smitty, the 511th continued to maintain their air of superiority throughout the war which also continued the rivalries; just unbeknownst to most the officers.
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Paratrooper Humor –
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Farewell Salutes –
Gordon Anderson – Ellensburg, WA; US Army Air Corps, WWII, PTO, 188th Reg./11th Airborne
Patrick Butler – San Francisco, CA; US Army Air Corps, PTO Occupation, 187th Reg,/ 11th A/B
Renfroe Colbert – Indian Trails, NC; US Army Air Corps, WWII, PTO, C/511th/11th A/B
William DeFlorio – Willowick, OH; US Army Air Corps, WWII, PTO, D/511th/11th A/B
Howard Englert – Stoney Creek, NY; US Army Air Corps, WWII, PTO, HQ2/188/11th A/B
Valentine Geig – Port St.Lucie, FL; US Army Air Corps, WWII, PTO, HQ/187th/11th A/B
Hassel Rogers – Ridgeway, VA; US Army Air Corps, WWII, PTO, C/674th Arty/11th A/B
Ted Timberlake – Cape Coral, FL; US Army Air Corps, WWII, PTO, HQ/187th/11th A/B
Delbert Thomsen – Clinton, IA; US Army Air Corps, WWII, PTO, HQ/ 457 Arty/11th A/B
James Wilson – Buffalo, OK; US Army Air Corps, WWII, PTO, C/457th Arty/11th A/B
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Posted on October 5, 2015, in SMITTY, WWII and tagged 11th airborne, 1940's, family history, History, Military History, nostalgia, Smitty, USA, veterans, WWII. Bookmark the permalink. 54 Comments.
Thanks for your like of my article, “Tribulation Prophecies And Doctrine 2 –The Time From Rapture To Tribulation;” your kindness is greatly appreciated.
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My pleasure, John.
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Thanks for always being so very kind.
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No thanks needed. I was raised to treat people as they treat me.
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I was raised that way, lol
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So far it’s worked for me.
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Yes. Very true.
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http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/421/The-Great-Lakes-Paddlewheeler-Aircraft-Carriers.aspx
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Whoa! what a pile of data!! This could make 2 large posts by itself, couldn’t it!?! Are you planning something like that? A home front training post? You really should! Fantastic that so many photos were saved of these great ships. You have really been into your research lately, haven’t you, Ian? I love to see that.
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Leaving it all up to you gp, that’s your area of expertise, make off it what you like mate, my research is purely on what I come by, I leave it up to the experts like you to dissect the info, cheers.
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Thanks for the compliment, Ian – but if I was such an expert, I’d not only already have these links, but I’d be a lot more organized. All I can say is – I try!
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Your doing well mate, best wishes for a great weekend.
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You as well, friend!
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General Swing proved to be a very astute leader, quite a task to equalize Paratroopers and Glidermen.
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There isn’t a man – even today – in the 11th A/B that would say one word against the General. He was not only respected, but loved – still is, actually.
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Very interesting spotlight and compelling to read so…
Thanks for sharing… Best wishes.
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There’s a rich history to paratroopers I’ve not explored before. Thanks for this.
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I appreciate you taking such a strong interest, Jacqui. Always a pleasure having you visit!
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“Strength From Above” patch is quite the metaphor !
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Love those cartoons! ‘Para Toast’ especially, and the guy who dropped out … boom boom~! Yay!
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The guy who dropped out must have been asleep during “How to Land” class!!
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I love stories about talented leaders. It is always inspiring to hear about things done right!
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To his men (even today) Gen. Swing was the Ultimate!!!
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Did I read it right? It seems that the paratroopers were given “special privileges” compared to the other forces… I think that was unfair. It was good that Gen. Swing “made it right”. 🙂
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At the beginning, the paratroopers were considered the elite, just as pilots were – to have a division work together as a team – Swing had to make it right – they were the role models for what may or may NOT continue at this point. Thanks for your interest. [feel any different now that you’re 50?] 🙄
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Nothing different. The same feeling still as if I’m 35… Wink!
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Rivalry will always exist, but it was nice to see someone trying to lessen it at least. War is a big enough problem by itself.
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Exactly, Bev. You understand. I always appreciate your visits!!
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The “Para Toast” looks good.
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Seems like a good invention to me – I’d could find it handy!
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It would be a good fun thing in the kitchen.
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😉
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Combining apples and oranges, forever the challenge. Still, I imagine the paratroopers (and glider pilots) earned the right to their pride. –Curt
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As glidermen became paratroopers and visa/versa they all became one unit – although the 511th held on to their feelings of superiority for a while longer. Thanks for coming by today.
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Give up their boots! Like we use to say, the only way anybody is going to take my boots is to pry them off my cold dead feet. And not to pay extra money to the glider men!!! I can’t imagine being in those balsa coffins when they were under attack by ack ack or landing in a field of tapered stakes stuck in the ground at an angle.
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That’s what Swing wanted to correct. He needed everyone in his division to be equal. Thanks for your comment, Don; it’s obviously you of what you speak!! I appreciate your years of reading here.
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That was good management. I enjoyed the article and smiling also at “para-toast”. Every home should have one 🙂
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Wouldn’t THAT be handy!! I was wondering if anyone was going to laugh at that one. Thanks, Kathy.
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It sure would, and yes it made me laugh 🙂
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Good to know those old cartoons still have what it takes!!
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Good General. If he did that today, he’d be sued. It’s a different world.
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And all his men thought the world of him, maybe that should be a lesson to the people of today. Thanks for stopping in today!
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I bet the person who wrote “Para-Toast” is long dead and gone, but isn’t it strange that he still make has the power to make me laugh out loud seventy years after he’s drawn it?
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Glad to hear someone else got a kick out of that one!! Thanks, John.
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I am sure that there was always rivalry between Paratroops and Glider men. We had, and still have ‘air-landing’ brigades here, and they all got the prestige of being ‘airborne.’ The Paras have none of that though, and still cherish their elite status.
Best wishes, Pete.
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That’s why Swing insisted that the paratroopers learn how to be glidermen and the glidermen became paratroopers – no one was except – even the officers. No one was consider themselves more elite than another.
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FYI
Never could open your link on the F-35 yesterday.
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Try this for David Knight’s Weblog…
https://wordpress.com/read/post/id/3725698/6155
Thank you, I appreciate your efforts!
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Smart man eh?
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YUP!
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Good management is so rare..
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Isn’t THAT the truth!!
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Oh yes, i have heard of it, but never experienced it first hand 😀
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