Fepows
Fepows – Far Eastern POWs
Countless films and books concerned with the Second World War have, through the decades, concentrated on Europe and the Holocaust and the Far East prisoners of war have barely been mentioned. The official 5 volumes of British history for this war include only 10 pages devoted to the subject, compared to the Australian history with 170 pages.
Japan’s army conquered the Far East in 1941-42. Prisoners were taken from Singapore, Hong Kong, Malaya, Thailand, Java, Sumatra, Ambon, New Britain, Celebes, Guam and the Philippines. According to the Tokyo War Crimes Tribunal, Japan took more than 50,000 British and Australian troops in Singapore alone; 42,000 Dutch (N.E.I.); 10,000 British in Java and 25,000 Americans in the Philippines and then transported to the mainland camps.
The Japanese government made its position known in 1942, through its legation in Bern, Germany. They felt they were not bound by the Geneva Convention, but it would apply the rules as far as it was possible – mutatis mutandis (with necessary changes). By Japanese standards, the men who were captured had shamed themselves; they were contemptible, expendable and “white.” But, the Japanese treated their own soldiers as badly as the prisoners. Although most every rule of the Geneva Convention was broken, not every huard was cruel and not every camp a hell-hole.
Generally, the prisoners conformed to national stereotypes. The British tried to preserve the class system, with the officers maintaining their privileges. The Australians were generous to their “cobbers,” but where also considered the most skillful at robbing or tricking the Japanese. The Americans were the most entrepreneurial, but some of their rackets were worthy of the Mafia.
The Americans offended the Australians because of their ignorance about other countries and an unsubstantiated superiority complex and they made insulting remarks about the menial status as a pawn of Britain. The Americans in turn found the Australians smug, opinionated and inexplicably fond of monarchy and pageantry. Both saw the British as arrogant, stiff-necked, inflexible and acting superior.
For most Britons, the war ended on VE Day in 1945 – the soldiers still fighting in Burma became the “forgotten army.” That made the Fepows not only forgotten, but forsaken. It would take them more than 50 years to receive any proper compensation from the British government.
According to Ronald Searle, former Fepow, “When the memories have vanished, their story will be a mere milestone in history. All the personal misery and suffering that captivity entailed will become simply words on a page. The Fepows have been described as members of the world’s ‘most exclusive and impenetrable’ club… Something that is difficult to explain to those unfortunates who are outside our “club”, who have never experienced what it means to be dirt and yet privileged to be surrounded by life-saving comradeship.”
Resource: “Surviving the Sword: Prisoners of the Japanese in the Far East 1942-45″ by Brian MacArthur, Random House, 2005
Being as most of the POWs of the Pacific and CBI were in captivity until 1945, further accounts will appear throughout this series.
Click on images to enlarge.
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Fepow Humour –

“Can I scrape out the porridge bins cookie – it’s me birthday today.” -( George Sprod – bamboo round my shoulder)
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Farewell Salutes –
Roy Achilles – St. Paul, MN; US Navy, WWII
William Crump – Auckland, NZ; RNZ Army # 273977
Richard Discher – Ft. Pierce, FL; US Army, Korea
Bernice Duncan – Shawnigan Lake, CAN; Canadian Women’s Army Corps, WWII
Elmer Hall Jr. – Metairie, LA; US Navy, WWII, PTO
Andrew Harper – El Dorado, IN; USMC, WWII, US Navy, Korea
Richard Kincade – Divide, CO; US Navy, Cmdr. (Ret. 25 years), Vietnam, USS Princeton & Midway
Will O’Donnell – Hawke’s Bay, NZ; RNZ Army, WWII
Bill Romano – Chicago, IL; US Army, Korea
Curtis Williams – Oberlin, KS; US Air Force, Korea, radar
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Posted on March 26, 2015, in Uncategorized, WWII and tagged Burma, China, History, Japan, nostalgia, POW, Prisoners, USA, veterans, war, WW2, WWII. Bookmark the permalink. 147 Comments.
Thank you for this information. I remember one of the GIs doing his service in Germany
saying, “Thank God I’m not in the South Pacific.”
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I can believe that!! The Pacific was a completely different type of war with battlefields hundreds of miles apart on different islands, jungle warfare that was unknown, temperatures and conditions completely alien. I appreciate your interest.
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Thank you for bringing to light this dark piece of history. I learned something today.
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I’m happy to hear that. It seems school systems everywhere failed to mention quite a bit about the war. I appreciate your visit, Malcolm.
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Unsubstantiated superiority complex? Harumph!
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I think that might be how we acquired the nicknames of ‘ugly american’? Thanks for visiting, Kerbey, good to see you. I love viewing all the nostalgic pictures you post each day!!
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Aw, thanks. You’ve got quite a stash yourself. Yes, you’re right; that’s where we must have acquired our bad rep. And here we still are, trying to police the world but running out of money. Why can’t evil dictators and terrorist groups just be nice people?
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I wish I [or anyone else] had an answer to THAT question, Kerbey.
As far as the US running out of money – we already did that – we now owe our souls to the China banks!
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This was a great piece of history you shared, thank you. I try to keep Tuesdays reserved for Vietnam; being it’s the 50th anniversary but I’m going to come back and reblog this tomorrow. Thank you again.
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No problem, Anna. I sometimes have a little trouble clicking onto the Nam posts, but they should be done and you’re the perfect person for the job.
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I know exactly how you feel. I have a hard time with the post 911 war era. I guess it’s because each war represents our generations…
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I feel it is more than coincidence but the Defense Language Institute (the current Military Intelligence Language School that grew out of WWII and where my dad was sent for training) just had a Bataan Death March Memorial Trek: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk9BULnV
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WOW, isn’t that fantastic!! It’s great to see to see a part of the younger generation not only saying they remember but showing it!! Thank you very much for this link, Koji – but somebody should wake that kid up in the bottom picture – the POWs didn’t sleep so well! 😉
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To finish my comment…he was in a Japanese camp for the duration of the war. He had mental health issues for the rest of his life and never spoke about those years.
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I would also imagine that the stereotypes,etc. were just for that reason; but I can also understand how most came home still scarred for life. I am truly sorry your Granduncle had such an ordeal to survive.
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Imagine that in the face of that horror, class systems and national stereotypes persevered. Maybe it was a way of pretending to have some degree of ‘normality’. My Grandmothers brother was in the British merchant marine and was captured and
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I believe I read, in a biography of Tojo, that Japan never signed the Geneva Conventions regarding POWs.
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Correct, hence their argument that they were not bound by its rules. Thank you for visiting here.
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So Americans were considered to have a superiority complex even then! It is interesting to hear about their attitudes towards each other…not exactly “Hogan’s Heroes” is it? It seems there are always the “forgotten” ones in every war…
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I imagine there always some forgotten ones, Sue, you’re right. I’m doing my best to help correct that [along with some of other fellow bloggers]. I don’t think there were too many “Hogan’s Heroes” prison camps around, but there were a few hidden radios. Thanks for dropping in!
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Reblogged this on Sara Holliday and commented:
A good short introductory accounting of the Allied Far East Prisoner of War experience, concentrating on the imprisoned national groups’ attitude towards each other.
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Thank you very much, Sara, for helping to keep the memories of these troops alive.
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Thank you for sharing this absolutely unknown for me side of the WW2.
Inese
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I try to locate little known facts, Mia, and I’m very happy you liked it. Thank you for visiting.
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Thank you for the priceless job you are doing.
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You are very welcome – it is the least I can do for these men.
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It was interesting to read the attitudes of Americans, Australians about one another and about the British. Excellent reading.
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Thank you very much, Kate. I try to get more info about the men rather than just listing dates and statistics.
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I found the descriptions of the various attitudes towards different nationalities amusing. I think many of those remain today!
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Do you think the younger folks are aware of how huge the British Empire was? I never really know what to make of school systems today. But I can see where middle-aged to older would still feel the same.
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I doubt it. When I was a kid I vaguely remember seeing a poster of what the British Empire once looked like in a late 1970’s/early 1980’s classroom
but the teachers never actually used it
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I’m surprised. I do recall learning about it and being surprised that they had territory in some of the oddest places. But then again, I was young and naive as to what resources each area contained.
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They used to say it was the empire on which the sun never sets
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That’s right!! I DO remember that from school.
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Well that post certainly sent my brain into overload. Let me try to process my thoughts . . . I can understand people falling into the trap of considering the POWs as a forgotten element of the overall conflict, but I cannot think of a single Australian baby boomer I have met who would be unaware of their suffering. If they were lucky enough to have a parent return, they certainly knew of the lasting bitterness, evidenced by the strong opposition to buying anything made in Japan. Of course, immediately after the war, that label was a joke, but this attitude endured well into the Japanese manufacturing boom. Even now, I detect a certain unease about the idea of letting our defence force submarine contract go the Japanese – as our Prime Minister is so keen on.
The current Booker prize winner, Richard Flanagan, with The Long Narrow Road to the Deep North, explores the Thai Burma Railway experience in harrowing detail. When reading the book, I wondered if the central character, Dorrigo Evans, was based on Edward “Weary” Dunlop, the Aussie surgeon who became a legend on the railway, but I heard later that it was the author’s actual father who was the inspiration. And of course, another recent foray into the Thai-Burma railway is the Brit-Aus film The Railwayman. By the way, you should catch up with A Town Like Alice. Of course, it is stylised and a little romantic, but it is a good reflection of the Australian larrikin culture of that time. (sadly too diluted now with political correctness). Another book I can recommend to your followers is Diary of a Girl In Changi, this time a female civilian perspective of a Singaporean resident. Then of course, there are all the stories of the death marches, Sandakan being one example.
Just last week, my brother and I touched on the story of Vivian Bullwinkel, the Army nurse who was the sole survivor of a machine gun execution of nurses in what is now known as the Bangka Island Massacre. Something which would have gone unrecorded except for her testimony. Most probably you are planning a post on that episode.
As it happens, my last career move was to the Australian branch of a Japanese shipping company. As soon as I arrived, my Aussie colleagues told me sternly, “whatever you say, DO NOT mention the war”. As time went on though, I had trouble reconciling my knowledge of the POW camp atrocities with the exceptionally polite and courteous attitude of my Japanese colleagues. They were so considerate and diplomatic that I was in danger of coming across as aggressive in comparison to them. Eventually, I capitulated and asked my extremely kind and gentle male boss to try to explain it to me. I cannot paraphrase him properly, but it went along the lines of the Samurai culture, Bushido, and the Japanese belief that the collective good of (Japanese) society out-ways the ethics of the individual. Then of course, the obedience to the Emperor. That’s my simple summary, but I am sure it is much more complex than that.
Whoops! So sorry for the brain dump. Hope it doesn’t take up too much space! In closing though, you might like to read this recent account by Max Gilbert, a survivor of the Ambon campaign and imprisonment:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-04-23/australian-recounts-brutal-life-in-prison-camp/3966170
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I can understand your confusion in dealing with people who used to considered the enemy. To add a little to your male colleague’s statement, the Japanese troops also were away from the strict traditional homelife and their actions got very carried away – so much so that some committed suicide rather than go home and face their family; they never expected to survive the fighting. I appreciate your comments – don’t worry about the space – and the link you’ve added would be a great post in itself [should I take it or would you prefer to do a series on the Australian point of view? I do believe we need to hear more from that source.] Thank you for for reading and joining in!!
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Very happy for you to take up the running on those topics. They are a good fit your with your military history theme. I keep having ideas for great posts and no time to do them. I am still hoping to put up something on the Boeing 747 coming to the museum here, but have too many other projects taking priority. Just got the manuscript back for second round of proof reading. Sigh . . .
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Well, your manuscript does take priority. I proud to know someone so dedicated to their craft, yet so willing to help the rest of us! Here’s wishing you all the best! 🍸
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Interestingly, my Grandfather (R.I.P.) fought the Japanese in New Guinea and yes after the war he had an intense dislike for them, but ultimately disliked Americans more! This all stemmed from early combat incidents alongside very green American troops and post battle “equipment losses”. He never liked talking about any of those things much so I only ever gleaned small details. He would probably not be happy to know his second son (my Uncle), 2 grandsons (a cousin and I) and a granddaughter all live in the USA today!
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Maybe I could have calmed him down by telling him how much my father Smitty had respected the Aussie fighting and loved Australia [what he saw of it] and always wanted to go back. On early New Guinea, the US troops were untrained for the jungle and embarrassed MacArthur by the progress of the Aussies. I’ve tried to get Gwedoline to help carry the ball on the Australiana point of view, but she’s too busy. Do you happen to have a 1942 post on New Guinea somewhere in the archives?
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You could have tried but he wouldn’t have been too keen to listen! I remember as a kid meeting a number of his friends who had all been POW’s in the Pacific but once again they didn’t want to talk about it too much. I have only written about the air attacks on Australia in 1942 unfortunately
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I find the best way to deal with veterans who won’t talk is – have more than one there, don’t ask questions – instead, tell a story you heard and ask what their opinion of it is. The 2 [or more] vets will start discussing the situation or their stories to each other – you make sure you sit back and listen.
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On another note, it seems the American troops training and amassing in Australia in 1942 were very popular with the Aussie ladies who were under a rationing scheme as the Americans had ample cigarettes, silk stockings (never understood why they had such a supply? Myth?), chocolates and American charm. This didn’t endear them to Aussie men too much, especially those who had been fighting in North Africa and the South West Pacific while this was going on. I am sure there are plenty of excerpts written about this. It pops up in old Australian tv shows and movies. Kind of funny when you look back at it now. Once the US hit there straps though and started to push the Japanese further and further back this all changed but then there was more angst from the Aussie troops and airmen who kind of got shunted to mopping up duty. Funny how all this can go on behind the scenes! Strange times during war
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They certainly are odd times and that’s why I want to help preserve the memory of it. The US was drastically changed because of the war and the more I research, the more I find the entire world changed forever. Smitty didn’t get R&R in Australia until 1945, so he didn’t steal anyone’s girl, thank goodness.
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Then there is the infamous “Battle of Brisbane” in 1942!
http://www.ozatwar.com/ozatwar/bob.htm
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Are you going to do a post on it? I’d definitely reblog it, should that be the case.
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Not at this stage but might be a good one for you to cover
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I can try, I always feel a bit swamped; afraid I’ll leave someone out of the picture.
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Its a grand scale you have taken on for WW2 but you always do well
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Thank you very. I can see by other site that I’m certainly not the best, but I sure do try hard.
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You do a great job! Like Deano said, it’s a grand scale. You can’t cover everything, so you do your best with what you can cover. (Enjoyed reading the conversation between you two btw.)
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Deano and I did kind of go back and forth on this, didn’t we!
I’m just thrilled people are discussing the posts, talking to each other too, not just me and adding info to the site, they really are a great bunch of friends [that includes you, by the way]. The more we read and converse, the more we remember! Thanks for not only reading the post, but also the comments, they add so much to the site.
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🙂 It’s great to see so much participation!
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We do have a great bunch of people here! They ask questions, talk to each other, share stories they know, start researching for themselves and come here to add…Yup – a great bunch! And you’re part of them – Thanks!
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Don’t forget to count yourself as part of the great bunch!
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Thanks, but I have been the student to all of you pros!
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The pros still end up learning new things too
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Smitty’s motto – “The day I stop learning, please, close the lid for me.”
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Great motto
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The slogan was “Overpaid, oversexed and over here!”
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LOVE it!!
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It seems like reading your posts is one of the few ways to honor many of the veterans. I hope is some way these long forgotten and unknown veterans feel that people are in some small way, honoring them.
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That’s my hope. Some people hope for an afterlife so they can live eternity in a magical heaven. I hope to hug my family and shake each veteran’s hand.
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That is a wonderful hope GPCox.
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Yes, ma’am it is.
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You know, the aspect that stands out for me from these tales of the Burma Road, River Kwai and so on, is that of forgiveness. I was of a generation to meet and know many British victims of the Japanese tyranny in those camps, walking skeletons many of whom never recovered, either mentally or physically. Yet apart from the demands for ‘apologies’ from Japan, there was never the relentless, sustained witch-hunt that was, and still is conducted against Nazis instrumental in the maintenance of the death camps. Now this is not intended to be anti-Semitic; I know how terrible were the crimes committed in those places – I don’t belittle them in any way. But I do wish we could move on.
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Also, hoping not to offend anyone, but I agree, it is time to move on. Not every generation should pay for the sins of the previous ones. I’m still hearing stories of young German people being persecuted for the actions of their grandfathers – it has to stop somewhere. Excellent comment, Frederick.
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Among the gripping exhibits at the Fort Siloso historical centre on Singapore’s Sentosa Island are exhibits from the Prisoner of War camps maintained within the city. Since the Fort is part of what is now an amusement and recreation island it produces a really stark effect: ten minutes ago you were watching folks on go-karts, now, sketches illustrated by a prisoner of the long hard work of staying alive.
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That is quite a contrast! But I’m glad to hear that their story has been preserved. Thank you for adding that, Joseph.
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I guess war is war… hardly to hold any rules.
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So true, sometimes it’s hard to believe rules were ever made up in the first place. It’s not like the leaders of the opposing countries are going to step into the boxing ring with each other.
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This is why I keep reading your blog, GP. I had no idea. How awful is that.
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“Man’s inhumanity to man” knows no boundaries….
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The stereotypes section had me giggling. Those weren’t hard to picture at all. Thanks for the very informative post!
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I was surprised that some of the readers found it hard to believe. I was like you – giggling. Thank you for spending time here.
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Thinking of Lord of the Flies, GP, I recall the ‘stick sharpened on both ends,’ which is what happens so often when prejudice and jingoism trump the value of working together. –Curt
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Excellent, Curt. You have a much better memory and insight than I, that’s for sure!
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Don’t believe that GP. But somehow, the image of the stick sharpened on both ends has always stuck in my mind.
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Isn’t it amazing how a philosophy or a set of values can inspire one set of human beings to ignore the humanity in another – just as the Nazis did with the Jews.
I see you are a bit dismissive of River Kwai, but I recall someone who had been in such a camp remarking that it was a pretty fair reflection – and that prisoners showing ‘bloody-mindedness’ in spite of punishment did gain respect (if they survived, of course).
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The movie was loosely based on fact. The general idea was there, but not the facts. No one had a ‘good’ time in the enemy camps that’s for certain. Thank you for coming today to read the post and tell us your side. I really like to see people talking about the post, not just with me, but with each other!
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These people suffered severely at the hands of the Japanese and they are / were very much the forgotten army. There is little recognition for them and considering the conditions and difficult times they had certainly deserve so much more. Some rather interesting stereo-types there too!
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I thought this post would not only rekindle the memory that these men fought too, but as you noticed, a bit of surprising character traits emerged.
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Certainly interesting. Also noticed that not all camps were hell, that came as a surprise!
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I was surprised the first time I read a story of one and the guards basically allowed the POWs to run the camp themselves, another had very few fences, etc. That term ‘everyone is different’ apparently even applies to the enemy. Thanks for coming.
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Like David, my uncle (my father’s brother) was a prisoner of the Japanese after being captured in Burma. Their treatment was appalling, and I doubt that there was much evidence of ‘stiff upper lips’
Thanks for a much-needed reminder gp.
Best wishes, Pete..
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Please do not ever forget. If I did not know before, I say now, send your uncle’s name, branch of service, and I’ll include him in the Farewell Salutes, [they are not just for the recently deceased].
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Thanks gp. His name was Harold Johnson, born 1918. He was a Bombardier in The Royal Artillery. I won’t forget what all my family did during the war, you can rest assured of that.
Regards from England. Pete.
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Info is copied, and it will be included in Monday’s post. Thank you, Pete, from the U.S.
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The Bridge on the River Kwai?
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Yes, many of the Asian camps sent work details to work on and finish building the Burma Railroad, but please do not confuse reality with the movie version. Thank you for reading today.
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Yes, of course not.
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I’ve always found it interesting the prisoners were allowed to keep their hats . . . I also don’t recall seeing Americans POW pictured with hats. Nothing to make of it; just an observation.
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I neglected that observation – good eye. Thanks for stopping by today.
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Thank you for this great post, dear GP Cox and helping people to remember the forgotten prisoners. Your quote at the end is very precious, I have copied it. ❤
“When the memories have vanished, their story will be a mere milestone in history. All the personal misery and suffering that captivity entailed will become simply words on a page. The Fepows have been described as members of the world’s ‘most exclusive and impenetrable’ club… Something that is difficult to explain to those unfortunates who are outside our “club”, who have never experienced what it means to be dirt and yet privileged to be surrounded by life-saving comradeship.”
Take good care!
Warm greetings across the sea,
Dina, Klausbernd, Siri & Selma xo
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Reading your comment, Dina, made me swell with pride. I take it to mean that I have done something good, in the right direction, for the memory of these men who fought so hard for freedom, survived the punishment they received for doing that and then were even forgotten. I appreciate you taking the time to express your feelings.
All my best to the Fab Four of Cley___ GP Cox
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Reblogged this on First Night History.
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Thank you for helping people to remember these forgotten prisoners.
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My late uncle was a prisoner of the Japanese in Burma. When he returned home after the war he was almost unrecognisable, would not speak about is incarceration and was very subdued. As state he remained in until he died.
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The book does mention that the men that were there had a very rough time of being able to talk. Your uncle was a very strong man to be able to survive it at all! I’ve hesitated in putting actual photos of the men here because my heart goes out to them. The amount of deprivation took massive tolls. Thank you for coming by, David.
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On the Burma campaign by the ‘Forgotten Army’ you might like to read ‘Quartered Safe Out Here’ by George MacDonald Frazer – yes, the author of ‘Flashman’, but he gives here an account of the experiences of the men who were there…what they felt about the Japanese and their views on dropping the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki – not at all what you might expect.
My father missed his draft to Singapore when the regimental dentist made a mess of him before sailing. His friends went into the bag at Singapore and few returned….he never bought anything Japanese for the rest of his life.
Mark you, he didn’t have a great opinion of British politicians and generals either – with the exception of Slim.
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I have read “Quartered Safe Out Here” and it is a great recommendation, Helen, thanks for bringing that up. Your father was certainly lucky to have missed the boat, but hope they fixed his teeth eventually! It seems the men greatly respected Slim, but his opinion of the UK officers sent to the PTO is understandable. Thank you for coming by and commenting, I appreciate your views and time.
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I’m glad you read it too…such an honest account.
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That it was. He constantly apologizes for his memory and faults – a very honest man.
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Another really interesting post, especially about the relationships of the different nationalties of prisoner. My dad’s experience in the RAF in England was that when members of the various squadrons went from their isolated airfields into a big city, the presence of so many young men, all over-excited and fuelled up with beer, was a recipe for certain disaster.
There were many fights, and they often took place along national lines. He said that the Canadians were always delighted to fight the British, and would invariably be helped by Australians should any be present.
On occasion, however, members of the American Eighth Air Force might turn up and join in, as they thought appropriately, on the side of the Canadians, against the British. This was sadly mistaken, as the Canadians seemed to dislike their American neighbours considerably more than their British hosts. Pub fights, therefore, would usually degenerate to an “Americans v English, Canadians and Australians” situation.
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I’m surprised to hear that, must have been some competition going on in there in the ETO I am unaware of. But as you know, I’m not as “up on” the Europe scene as I should be. It’s very interesting to hear your story, John. In the Pacific fighting arena, it was more of a Navy, Marine, Army competition going on.
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My 425 Alouette Squadron veteran told me about an anecdote where they protected a black US Air Force airman against other USAF airmen in a pub. True story. My veteran never makes up stories. He had another when some British soldiers were nagging some soldiers of the 22nd Regiment… elite soldiers. They never tried that again. French-Canadian soldiers were rightly feared by Germans.
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I never doubted it – I’ve met a few.
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This was one of my first introductions to the story of the Fepows. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Town_Like_Alice_%281956_film%29 I read the book and saw the film many times.
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I had never heard of this film, Ann. Thank you for supplying the link for me and the other visitors here!! I hope they take the time to read it.
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Another favourite, which also became a film, is Three Came Home, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_Newton_Keith, by American author Agnes Newton Keith.
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Very interesting, Ann! I will have to be looking for that one as well. Thank you.
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I finally looked up your name in the comments so I could reply to this comment specifically. [I discovered that you and I have over 25 pages of correspondence. Isn’t that remarkable!?!] I did buy the book “Three Came Home” and I finished reading it. Quite an experience for all 3 of them. The horrific lives they had in the prison camp and their son growing up basically feral… It takes strong people to come out as well as they did. Thank you for recommending it.
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My goodness that is remarkable. 25 pages! That’s a short story. Glad you read the book and I am glad their story is not forgotten.
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That sounds like a good film. I’ll see if I can get it through Netflix. Amazing how people can be kind, ruthless and bigots at the same time, but I see this in everyday life around me. Abraxis is the word that comes to mind. A pecking order in prison camp! It has been a long, long time since I read Lord of the Flies.
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Lord of the Flies was not about prisoners, but children deserted on an island for a short time and how the pecking order immediately developed. I’m going to be looking for that film as well. Thanks for reading thru the comments also, the readers always add something to the posts, Lavinia, and everyone appreciates that!! I’m looking forward to seeing how Gallivanta replies to this.
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That’s what I thought I remembered, the book was about children. I think poor Piggy ends up getting killed towards the end? Yes, kids do develop a pecking order, very quickly. Adults often have no idea how much impact their own actions have upon the little ones.
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Very true, but it seems here in the story of the camps, the men imitate the children. (except for killing Piggy).
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I haven’t seen the film in a long time, Lavinia, but I remember being captivated by it. I would have been about 10 or 11 when I saw it for the first time.
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Interesting to say the least and I found their attitudes towards each other fascinating too.
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The book was very interesting…how they sacrificed for each other, kept morale up and endured whatever the Japanese and Korean guards threw at them, is truly inspiring and certainly makes our troubles seem so petty in comparison. I’m glad you found it interesting, Norma, Thank you.
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As Searle stated, All the personal misery and suffering that captivity entailed will become simply words on a page.
A soldiers history alas ends up no more than words on a page.
Those illustrations are great, how about gp, a post depicting illustrations by various prisoner artists, those guys did a brilliant job preserving history with their illustrations.
Regards
Ian
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These are by prisoners, but as I said on the bottom of the post, others will be coming . I have one post all set for the 1942-43 Intermission story group about one particular artist. I was amazed that a camera was actually hidden by one Aussie – the guards couldn’t have been too diligent. Thanks for the visit, Ian.
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Even in a prison camp a pecking order. You think everyone would get along but then people are people.
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I know I’ve said this before, but I couldn’t help but think of “Lord of the Flies” while I read the book. Thank you for reading, Barry.
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How sad that the British government snubbed these unfortunates for so very long.
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Isn’t it though!! It amazes me how we rant and rave about a single individual before we do a group. That’s why I plan Intermission stories, which will occur next between the posts for 1942-43. Thanks for dropping in, Swabby.
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Thanks for the story. Although I’ve known about Japanese POW camps from the American perspective, I’ve never heard the term FEPOW before nor had I known that the UK had not recognized them until more than 50 years later. Terrible. All that served deserve our respect.
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They were in the colonies or dominions of the British Empire and not considered a priority, as far as I can tell. I appreciate you reading this post, Maryann, I know how much you research yourself.
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This post confirms how the Canadians forces were viewed by the British military during WWII… expandable…
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Oh, most definitely!! Australia was being bombed and Churchill was still continuing to demand that their troops be sent to the Middle East instead of defending their own country. Nor did he send a force to help with Singapore – they showed their feelings about the “Empire” far too often!
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That attitude towards colonies might also have been the same with other countries.
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I’m certain it did. They had been an Empire for far too long.
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It was.
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This post comes on cue, as I am about to post a review a first-hand account by a FEPOW. The Far East Prisoners experience is a really difficult area of the war, mostly because none of us can really imagine the conditions or the cultural differences between all the nations, both prisoners and captors, who were thrown together. I have read many, many books on the subject during my research. The MacArthur book is a goodish overview because it covers the vast areas where FEPOWs were held, though I think the 1992 book River Kwai Railway by Clifford Kinvig is an better overview of the railway experience, including the Japanese perspective. Neither of these writers were there, and something that emerges from the primary sources is that every man had a difference experience of their captivity. There were certainly clashes between the different nationalities, but the stereotypes represent only a small irksome minority. More important than anything else was having mates you could depend on.
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That is why I ended the post with the quote by a Fepow. With the volumes of eyewitness reports and official papers on the subject, I felt MacArthur’s view was substantiated plenty by those that were there. I’m looking forward to your post on a Fepow, Hillary!
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Thank you schöner Beitrag liebe Grüße von mir Gislinde
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Amazing how little has been said about these unfortunate people.
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Once VE Day hit, they were forgotten by most. Hard to believe! Thanks for coming by, Dan
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Lest we forget
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Thank you, Pierre. We both know how important it is to remember these troops.
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You should get what I want to send soon. I just need a signature.
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How do I do that?
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Not YOUR signature My veteran’s signature.
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Ah so….
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Fascinating attitudes towards each other
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I couldn’t help but think of “Lord of the Flies” when I was reading this book.
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